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  • 10% Will Change

    Hi All,

    I hope you can help.

    My father died 7 years ago leaving a witnessed and a doctor capacity checked will - still not fully disbursed and ongoing, (There have been interim payments). This will split the estate:

    10% to my brother.

    40% to my Dad’s friend

    50% to myself

    However, the papers and notes from the will writer. State that Dad wanted his estate split 50 50 between myself and his friend, and for my brother his son to receive “nothing”. The will writer advised my Dad against this and that my brother should be left with 10% so that he did not bring a claim against the estate. Hence Dad reduced his friend’s 50% share that he had wished they receive to 40%. As a result of this Dad’s friend lost out on over 50k, they would have received had Dad’s original wishes been upheld.

    The will does not have a “no claim” clause, nor is there any actual agreement with my brother that accepting the 10% limits him making a claim or limits him causing delays. Since the will has been read my brother has caused a whole host of issues.

    And now over 7 years has passed since my father died and the will is still ongoing with my brother refusing to cooperate with the executors, as he is “unhappy with the will”, (last email), the friend of Dad’s has been in contact with me, having discovered the change from Dad’s wishes due to the will writer’s advice and asking if it was legally sound advice, for if it was how come my brother is able to cause these delays?

    And asking if they have a claim against the will writer, for the 10% loss due to their advice. And if I have a claim against them due to the added legal costs dealing with my brother? Each letter to him costs 250 plus vat, it’s not cheap.

    Is this negligence? Should the will writer have advised this no strings attached gift as a way of preventing a claim or should they have advised a “no claim” clause or provided an actual agreement with my brother for the 10% for his cooperation.

    Was the advice that the 10% would in any way limit my brother from bringing a claim even legally correct, I can’t find any case law for this. It appears as just a gift. And a loss to the estate with no consideration.

    Either the “no claim” clause, or a 10% agreements signed by my brother would appear to have had more teeth but does that mean what the will writer did was negligence.

    Nor was dad advised that as a consequence of including my brother he would gain beneficial rights and being troublesome would be able to use those rights, as he is, to delay disbursement, and bring additional cost to the estate managing him, each letter to him, as mentioned, costs 250 plus vat, it’s not cheap.

    Any advice would be appreciated.
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  • #2
    I'm assuming you are in England Marble83

    Sounds like you need advice from a solicitor who has access to all the papers.

    By a "no claim" clause do you mean a "no contest" clause such as discussed here? 'No-contest' clauses in Wills | Howes Percival

    If your brother isn't an Executor what co-operation from him is needed? Why not just pay him his 10% and have done with it?

    You don't say when Probate was granted but as the death was 7 years ago and you've made interim payments I assume it was some time ago. So I'd have thought your brother is out of time for bringing an Inheritance Act claim (6 months from Grant of Probate).

    And have you investigated whether you would be out of time to bring a claim against the will writer even if you could establish negligence?
    Last edited by PallasAthena; 10th June 2023, 11:21:AM.
    All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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    • #3
      Thank you so much for your response.


      "I'm assuming you are in England Marble83"


      Yes I am in England.


      Sounds like you need advice from a solicitor who has access to all the papers.

      Yes I have been to solicitors to seek their advice, I have been to three so far, in addition to reading what I have, understandably they firstly ask for paper work from the executors this takes months, as when my solicitors write to the executors, telling them they have 28 days to reply, they don’t reply so my solicitors write again, then after another 28 days nothing, so another letter and another 28 days pass and then another 28 days pass, and then another, with me constantly having to chase my solicitors for an update. Then they get a reply that does not address the issues, example our solicitors required the “will file” on three separate occasions taking over 6 months, and received nothing but blame for the delay on the beneficiaries, the latest has been my brother hence why him being in the will as a direct result of their advice is so important and hence why it took a Larke v Nugus to prise from the will writers, an explanation of how the will was created.
      The latest attempt I made was to call the executors to account, this was agreed with my latest solicitors and I transferred 3K and signed an agreement document, then a senior solicitor stepped in and stopped this proceeding, offering instead to write to the executors and ask about their progress, (well of course there is no progress hence calling them to account) he did this as calling them to account would require reading all the paper work and this would be overly costly and the senior solicitor could not see the executors had done any wrong! After 8 years, I have this in writing. So, my hope was my Dad’s friend was right and has pointed out the will was changed due to the will writer’s legal advice, and this may be why they are delaying things or being uncooperative with showing us certain documents, including the will file. So far, I have spent 11K in legal costs chasing this, in addition every letter back from the executors costs the estate as does every letter to my brother with total executors costs to the estate so far of 48K not a small sum.


      "By a "no claim" clause do you mean a "no contest" clause such as discussed here? 'No-contest' clauses in Wills | Howes Percival"

      Apologies yes, the correct term is “no contest” clause.


      "If your brother isn't an Executor what co-operation from him is needed? Why not just pay him his 10% and have done with it?"

      No my brother is not an executor and yes I’d have thought so just pay my brother his 10% but they won’t.


      "You don't say when Probate was granted but as the death was 7 years ago and you've made interim payments I assume it was some time ago. So I'd have thought your brother is out of time for bringing an Inheritance Act claim (6 months from Grant of Probate)."

      Yes Probate was granted in 2017 it was delayed as 90K was unaccounted for 40K whilst my brother was LPA for Dad and an additional 50K in cash after he was removed, this is in addition to numerous cheques amounting to about 15K most payable to my brother
      I agree my brother is out of time for an inheritance act claim and as he lives in a 500K house unencumbered and drives a brand new BMW and received two pensions, I would not believe he ever had a claim, under Inheritance act. And again, why I am pinning my hopes on my Dad’s friend being correct and that it was made with incorrect legal advice.



      "And have you investigated whether you would be out of time to bring a claim against the will writer even if you could establish negligence?"

      Yes I have looked at this again, legal costs over 1K and received mixed replies from - the time starts when the will was constructed and therefore all time has passed, the will was done in 2012, and you have six years only, to you have 3 years from discovery, and hence it’s in time as Dad’s friend has only just discovered this.



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      • #4
        So does that mean you are not an Executor yourself Marble83 ? Who are the Executors - a firm of solicitors?

        Thanks for the very full information. Nothing more I can add I'm afraid, I think I've reached the limit af my experience of this and don't want to mislead by speculating. Hopefully someone will come by who knows more about it.
        Last edited by PallasAthena; 10th June 2023, 17:04:PM.
        All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
          So does that mean you are not an Executor yourself Marble83 ? Who are the Executors - a firm of solicitors?

          Thanks for the very full information. Nothing more I can add I'm afraid, I think I've reached the limit af my experience of this and don't want to mislead by speculating. Hopefully someone will come by who knows more about it.
          Thank you PallasAthena,

          To answer your questions , NO I am not an executor , and yes the executors are a firm of solicitors

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