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dwf Security costs shoplifting in ASDA

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  • dwf Security costs shoplifting in ASDA

    Hello I have been stressing for the past few weeks purely due to my own stupid actions and was hoping someone could advise me please reserve judgement my own self hatred is enough.

    I am 17 from England. In simple terms I was recently caught shoplifting at ASDA and ,on top of the granola I had stolen that day, they went through an archive of security footage and stacked up all I had previously stolen - totalling £90. I was ofcourse ashamed and regretful as this is the first “bad thing” I’ve done and I’d only been doing it to impress my friends ( as embarrassing as that is admitting ) and wanted to pay this back. I gave the security guard who escorted me into a back room my name and address and I was told that I would receive a letter for around £100 which I would have to pay. Today I received said letter from “dwf” on behalf of ASDA and noticed that in the expenses due, whilst it details the £90 as the value of goods stolen, the amount due was £215 due to supposed “ Security costs” despite only using up about 5 minutes of their time. I feel morally inclined to pay the £90 back of course but the security costs seem unfeasible and I am worried that if i only pay the £90 they will pursue further action.
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  • #2
    More knowledgeable people than me will need to confirm. My understanding is to simply repay Asda cost, ignore other.
    In the 1960s a group of my friends went shoplifting at Woolies. Caught and warning. All went on to successful careers. To make a mistake is human. Learn to live by your standards not impressing people who aren't real friends.
    Forgive yourself and look forward. Don't live life looking in the rear view mirror.

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    • #3
      thank you for responding and i very much appreciate the message and have in the last few weeks come to understand this sentiment. However regarding the payment, I have only access to the dwf for payment and they request the full £215 and so i fear still that the £90 will not suffice and act as a partial payment to which they could pursue action?

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      • #4
        I believe what I put is correct and the security firm is trying it on. However, I hope better qualified post.
        Your good manners are a credit.

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        • #5
          I would consider ignoring DWF completely.
          If you enter into any form of dialogue with them they will increase their hounding of you.

          If they should ever escalate the matter to court (which is IMO very unlikely), you should then admit £90 of the claim and dispute the rest.

          The Oxford case (https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...gment-09-05-12) reinforces the principle that a claimant can only claim damages for actual loss suffered, and security costs are not losses caused directly by your actions.

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          • #6
            Thanks Des, hoped you would come in. I must have learnt something !

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            • #7
              ah okay thank you very much for responding DES, so you reckon even a submission of the £90 would just cause them to hound me more as it shows I’ve received it, so I should just ignore it entirely?What is the likelihood of it being taken to court if so and would it show anything on my record if I do fail to pay it? ( sorry for the extensive questioning I’m just apprehensive as to whether I should pay the entirety to avoid any further consequences thanks again )

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              • #8
                * especially as I feel I do certainly owe the £90 despite the clear attempt to make profit through these fees

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                • #9
                  Des, appreciating OPs conscience what might happen if attempts to pay M and S directly ?

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                  • #10
                    As advised just do nothing pay nothing and ignore warnings, and wait and see, if they issue a Court summons then pay the invoice, but as Des says wait and see don't panic.

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                    • #11
                      I would follow H.H. Asquith's advice and wait and see.

                      These firms only make money from this type of business if people pay up on demand.
                      If they initiated court action, and then managed to win in court, they would still make a loss.
                      Following the Oxford case we have not had anyone report back that they had been taken to court.
                      No reason to suppose they would start now.

                      Even if the matter reached county court and jojoz. actually managed to lose, if you pay within 30 days nothing will appear on your credit record.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Des.

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                        • #13
                          thank you very much Scot, DES and De you’ve been very helpful

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jojoz. View Post
                            thank you for responding and i very much appreciate the message and have in the last few weeks come to understand this sentiment. However regarding the payment, I have only access to the dwf for payment and they request the full £215 and so i fear still that the £90 will not suffice and act as a partial payment to which they could pursue action?
                            So respect criminals as long as they have good manner? Really? He should be in jail. I hate thieves.

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                            • #15
                              veoh112 on this site we try not to be judgemental, but help people.
                              Even people who might have done wrong are entitled to respect as human beings.

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