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    Hey,

    I have opened a claim against 2 people. The claim was in the amount of £1200. Upon receiving the claim, the defendants called me to discuss payment options. We agreed that £600 was to pay immediately and the rest in 3 installments over 3 months and it was sent via email. The first installment of 200 was made on time, but the second and third installment was not made and no replies to my emails were received. After they have failed to make the second installment I filed a judgment against both of the claimants on dec. 3rd. ad the 2nd payment was to be made on the first. Like I said, no reply and payment. Since I had not closed the claim once we agreed on the payment plan (because there was an amount still outstanding), I entered default judgment for the remaining amount of £400, plus the claim fee, bailiff fee, interest.
    Once the bailiff visited, they paid the amount of £400 and argued for the claim to be shown as settled. However, the claim fee/bailiff fee/ interest were still outstanding.

    After having filed for N316 (questioning) and emailed them of enforcing the judgment, I now got an email from a solicitor asking me to consent for the judgment to put aside and to confirm to cease any enforcement actions.
    He also wrote, without agreeing to any liability they would like to know the sum for me to consent.

    1. Since the claimants now react after 10 weeks for the judgment to be put aside, and having already agreed to a payment plan (thus agreeing the amount was owed by them), I really dont want to give my consent and would like for them to pay £255, since I think they will not have any reasonable ground as to why to have it set aside.

    2. The case is actually 2 claimants against 2 defendants. However since the money claim form online only allows one claimant, I put my name on it. Does this matter?

    3. Does each claimant need to make one N244 application, thus pay each £255 for the application or does it go by claim? A joint judgment was entered as there are two claimants.

    4. Upon receiving the claim none of them filed a defense or acknowledgment but agreed to a payment plan with me on the email. So they cannot say, they did not receive the claim. And obviously since made payment towards it will not defend it, so I think there is no real prospect of having it set aside.

    5. Does a consent mean, that a court will set it aside without looking if it has ground being set aside.

    6. it was written: my client will be forced to make an application in relation to each claim if I don't consent.
    They have to make an application whether I consent or not. Or is he talking about something different?

    7. Please confirm if you will provide your consent to set aside these judgments. If so I will provide draft consent orders for your consideration. These draft orders will also provide suggested directions for the claim.
    What are suggested directions for the claim?

    8. If you will not provide your consent to set aside these judgments, please confirm that you will cease enforcing these judgments until such time as my client has had the opportunity to have these matters reconsidered by the court.
    Why would I cease enforcement, if I dont even consent?










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  • #2
    Hello, my first question is are you able to upload the solicitor's letter so we can see exactly what has been said? Make sure to redact all personal information from the document.

    There may be a potential procedural error on your part but can#t comment until we know what the solicitor has actually said.
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    • #3
      I write to you to seeking for your consent that the judgments in the above claims be set aside. If this can be dealt with by consent then I also suggest further directions be agreed in relation to the claims to assist with their determination by the court. Please confirm if you will provide your consent to set aside these judgments. If so I will provide draft consent orders for your consideration. These draft orders will also provide suggested directions for the claim.

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      • #4
        If you will not provide your consent to set aside the judgments and/or your consent to cease enforcement as provided above then my client will be forced to make an application in relation to each claim. Such application will involve costs being incurred which, if all applications are heard together, are likely to be between £2000 and £3000. If the applications are successful then my client will seek an order that you pay her costs of the applications. I hope that these applications can be avoided if you can agree to what is being sought.

        Notwithstanding the above, my client is willing to take a commercial view of this matter. Therefore, without any admission of liability by my client, I ask that you please set out what sum you would seek to be paid by my client to set aside the above judgments by consent.

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        • #5
          Anyone?

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          • #6
            'tis the weekend and only a few members will be on, so replies will be thin on the ground.

            Information for other members: I have been PM'd by Luzie1968 and advised her that the defendants will have problems obtaining a set aside as this is small claims track and applications should be made within 14 days (CPR27.11), but nothing is certain.
            Also pointed out that costs in small claims are limited.
            Suggested she might consider negotiating settlement as requested in the final paragraph as it avoids the sress of a possible court case.
            Last edited by des8; 12th February 2022, 19:04:PM.

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            • #7
              Yes.. but I understand it as asking for a sum to consent to set it aside... not to settle the whole claim...

              and is it common to ask for consent, so his clients will have a chance to defend them? Who would do that, even though the defense would be weak?

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              • #8
                It is common to ask for consent, as it reduces costs.
                In some tracks that can be a substantial amount, and the court can order that a party who doesn't consent pays the other party's costs.

                That final paragraph post 4 is a request for you to state how much you require to agree to set aside the judgment.
                If you come to an agreement on price and consent to the set aside, they will apply for it.
                If granted the CCJ will be removed from the records, and application could be made to discontinue the claim.
                i did explain the financial reasons for this course of action in our exchange yesterday

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                • #9
                  I am sorry. Something is not clear to me. In the somicitors email, he asks me to consent to set aside, so the defendants can defend themselfes.
                  he does not ask to come to an agreement for the whole claims figure. Just a figure to set it aside, so they can defend the claim.

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                  • #10
                    I read it that they are looking for a settlement figure so the CCJs are removed and no further costs are incurred.

                    From what you indicated in your PMs it does seem you might have sued the wrong entities, so unless you come to an agreement it might work out expensive for you.
                    You haven't indicated what your case was about, and have only given few details, so it is difficult to advise.

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