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I have followed previous threads and used some of the advice in relation to a claim against myself. I would appreciate some advice & next steps - not sure I have anywhere to go with this ....
(Copy of the latest letter):
Background
By way of background, on 18 October 2016 our client entered into a regulated hire purchase agreement with you (“the Agreement”) in respect of a BMW F32 430d luxury coupe motor vehicle with
registration number XX (“the Vehicle”). Under the terms of the Agreement, the cash price for the Vehicle was £25,049.93 which you agreed to pay, together with charges for credit in the sum of £5,607.52 by 48 monthly instalments of £426.65 and an optional final payment of £10,178.25. It is not in disputed that you exercised your option to terminate the Agreement on or around 4 October 2019 both under the terms of the Agreement and in accordance with s.99(1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (“the CCA 1974”). Under the terms of the Agreement, our client is, however, entitled to charges for excess mileage. Our client is claiming the sum of £8,424.44 in respect of excess mileage charges and £56.45 in respect of the late payment interest, plus additional interests and costs. We enclose a copy of the Agreement with this letter and respectfully refer you to the Excess Mileage Charges section at the bottom left of the first page, together with second paragraph of the Termination: Your Rights section at the bottom left of the second page.
Both of the aforementioned sections confirm that any excess mileage will be a charge accrued prior to termination and that you will remain liable to pay excess mileage even if you voluntarily terminate the
Agreement. We understand from our client that the actual mileage of the Vehicle when it was recovered was 154,825. Our client would like to highlight at this stage that you were aware of the terms regarding mileage limits when you entered into the Agreement. Aside from the terms set out above, being referred to in the Agreement itself, we understand from our client that the level of the mileage allowance is discussed and set by virtue of discussions with the customer. As such, the mileage was set at 32,667 over the course of the Agreement, or 8,000 per annum, with your full appreciation of this limit. The total mileage allowance for the full term of the Agreement (32,667) was exceeded by over 80,000 miles in the course of just three years. Had the Agreement not been voluntarily terminated and the same mileage had been accrued during the remaining year then the likely mileage would have been in the region of 100,000. The inclusion of an annual mileage figure is to protect the condition of the Vehicle and its value. A vehicle which has travelled 30,000 miles over the course of its lifetime is less likely to be involved in accidents and more likely to be in a decent condition. By comparison, a vehicle which has done in excess of 75,000 miles is more likely to have been damaged, be subject to additional wear and tear, will usually require servicing and is generally of less value compared to a lower mileage vehicle. Statutory provisions You rely in your Defence on s.99(1) and s.100(1) of the CCA 1974 specifically. On the basis that your voluntary termination of the Agreement was under the CCA 1974, you believe you are not required to pay the excess mileage charges. S.99(1) states: “At any time before the final payment by the debtor under a regulated hire-purchase or regulated conditional sale agreement falls due, the debtor shall be entitled to terminate the agreement by giving notice to any person entitled or authorised to receive the sums payable under the agreement.” S.100(1) states: “Where a regulated hire-purchase or regulated conditional sale agreement is terminated under section 99 the debtor shall be liable, unless the agreement provides for a smaller payment, or does not
provide for any payment, to pay to the creditor the amount (if any) by which one-half of the total price exceeds the aggregate of the sums paid and the sums due in respect of the total price immediately before the termination.” Our client relies on s.99(2) of the CCA 1974, which states: “Termination of an agreement under subsection (1) does not affect any liability under the agreement which has accrued before the termination.” Under the terms of the Agreement regarding excess mileage, it is clearly stated that “your obligation to pay excess mileage charges will accrue immediately prior to termination”.
It is also not the case that under s.100(1) you are excluded from having to pay any penalty, compensation or damages for a breach. “Total price” is defined in s.189 of the CCA 1974 to mean “the total sum payable by the debtor under a hire-purchase agreement or a conditional sale agreement, including any sum payable on the exercise of an option to purchase, but excluding any sum payable as a penalty or as compensation or damages for a breach of the agreement” [emphasis added] As such, s.100(1) does not exclude you from having to pay any such penalty, compensation or damages. It simply states that when calculating the “total price” to determine what you have to pay to terminate under s.99(1) you do not include any penalty, compensation or damages. As mentioned above, it is not in dispute that the Agreement was terminated, but you are mistaken regarding the effect of the section of the statute you are relying on. We also refer you to s.100(2), which states: “If the debtor has contravened an obligation to take reasonable care of the goods or land, the amount arrived at under subsection (1) shall be increased by the sum required to recompense the creditor for that contravention, and subsection (2) shall have effect accordingly.” Notwithstanding that our client maintains that the excess mileage charges are payable in any event and not excluded by the CCA 1974, by exceeding the total annual mileage by such a significant margin you have contravened your obligation to take reasonable care of the Vehicle, and the sum calculated under s.100(1) may be increased to recompense our client for the contravention. The method of calculating that compensation is set out within the terms of the Agreement, as agreed by you.
In addition, the cases to which you refer are unreported cases and are not binding on County Courts in any event.
I have followed previous threads and used some of the advice in relation to a claim against myself. I would appreciate some advice & next steps - not sure I have anywhere to go with this ....
(Copy of the latest letter):
Background
By way of background, on 18 October 2016 our client entered into a regulated hire purchase agreement with you (“the Agreement”) in respect of a BMW F32 430d luxury coupe motor vehicle with
registration number XX (“the Vehicle”). Under the terms of the Agreement, the cash price for the Vehicle was £25,049.93 which you agreed to pay, together with charges for credit in the sum of £5,607.52 by 48 monthly instalments of £426.65 and an optional final payment of £10,178.25. It is not in disputed that you exercised your option to terminate the Agreement on or around 4 October 2019 both under the terms of the Agreement and in accordance with s.99(1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (“the CCA 1974”). Under the terms of the Agreement, our client is, however, entitled to charges for excess mileage. Our client is claiming the sum of £8,424.44 in respect of excess mileage charges and £56.45 in respect of the late payment interest, plus additional interests and costs. We enclose a copy of the Agreement with this letter and respectfully refer you to the Excess Mileage Charges section at the bottom left of the first page, together with second paragraph of the Termination: Your Rights section at the bottom left of the second page.
Both of the aforementioned sections confirm that any excess mileage will be a charge accrued prior to termination and that you will remain liable to pay excess mileage even if you voluntarily terminate the
Agreement. We understand from our client that the actual mileage of the Vehicle when it was recovered was 154,825. Our client would like to highlight at this stage that you were aware of the terms regarding mileage limits when you entered into the Agreement. Aside from the terms set out above, being referred to in the Agreement itself, we understand from our client that the level of the mileage allowance is discussed and set by virtue of discussions with the customer. As such, the mileage was set at 32,667 over the course of the Agreement, or 8,000 per annum, with your full appreciation of this limit. The total mileage allowance for the full term of the Agreement (32,667) was exceeded by over 80,000 miles in the course of just three years. Had the Agreement not been voluntarily terminated and the same mileage had been accrued during the remaining year then the likely mileage would have been in the region of 100,000. The inclusion of an annual mileage figure is to protect the condition of the Vehicle and its value. A vehicle which has travelled 30,000 miles over the course of its lifetime is less likely to be involved in accidents and more likely to be in a decent condition. By comparison, a vehicle which has done in excess of 75,000 miles is more likely to have been damaged, be subject to additional wear and tear, will usually require servicing and is generally of less value compared to a lower mileage vehicle. Statutory provisions You rely in your Defence on s.99(1) and s.100(1) of the CCA 1974 specifically. On the basis that your voluntary termination of the Agreement was under the CCA 1974, you believe you are not required to pay the excess mileage charges. S.99(1) states: “At any time before the final payment by the debtor under a regulated hire-purchase or regulated conditional sale agreement falls due, the debtor shall be entitled to terminate the agreement by giving notice to any person entitled or authorised to receive the sums payable under the agreement.” S.100(1) states: “Where a regulated hire-purchase or regulated conditional sale agreement is terminated under section 99 the debtor shall be liable, unless the agreement provides for a smaller payment, or does not
provide for any payment, to pay to the creditor the amount (if any) by which one-half of the total price exceeds the aggregate of the sums paid and the sums due in respect of the total price immediately before the termination.” Our client relies on s.99(2) of the CCA 1974, which states: “Termination of an agreement under subsection (1) does not affect any liability under the agreement which has accrued before the termination.” Under the terms of the Agreement regarding excess mileage, it is clearly stated that “your obligation to pay excess mileage charges will accrue immediately prior to termination”.
It is also not the case that under s.100(1) you are excluded from having to pay any penalty, compensation or damages for a breach. “Total price” is defined in s.189 of the CCA 1974 to mean “the total sum payable by the debtor under a hire-purchase agreement or a conditional sale agreement, including any sum payable on the exercise of an option to purchase, but excluding any sum payable as a penalty or as compensation or damages for a breach of the agreement” [emphasis added] As such, s.100(1) does not exclude you from having to pay any such penalty, compensation or damages. It simply states that when calculating the “total price” to determine what you have to pay to terminate under s.99(1) you do not include any penalty, compensation or damages. As mentioned above, it is not in dispute that the Agreement was terminated, but you are mistaken regarding the effect of the section of the statute you are relying on. We also refer you to s.100(2), which states: “If the debtor has contravened an obligation to take reasonable care of the goods or land, the amount arrived at under subsection (1) shall be increased by the sum required to recompense the creditor for that contravention, and subsection (2) shall have effect accordingly.” Notwithstanding that our client maintains that the excess mileage charges are payable in any event and not excluded by the CCA 1974, by exceeding the total annual mileage by such a significant margin you have contravened your obligation to take reasonable care of the Vehicle, and the sum calculated under s.100(1) may be increased to recompense our client for the contravention. The method of calculating that compensation is set out within the terms of the Agreement, as agreed by you.
In addition, the cases to which you refer are unreported cases and are not binding on County Courts in any event.
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