Jo Cox

[PAWS]

I was planning a rant about Cliff Richard and how unfair it is to name and shame before the accused is even formally arrested but the more I am uncovering about the incredible Jo Cox the sadder I feel.
I know that as a polite society we tend to speak well of the dead but this woman was something else. She was exactly what the perfect politician should be;
Of the people, for the people.
I know we all think ‘what is this country coming to’ but remember this sort of abomination is rare in the UK and I just hope that it will not result in ordinary people losing that easy access to their MPs.
My thoughts and prayers are with her family, friends and colleagues. I also feel immense sadness for her constituents who have lost, from what I have discovered, an absolute gem.

[enaid]

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Ditto xxx

[Kati]

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RIP to a great woman and a great mother!!

[Amethyst]

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Just devastating. Her poor family. She will be a big loss to the saner side of British Politics.

[Sparkie1723]

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It goes to show ...not all the brain dead A*****s live in America ....What a B*****d that fella is.............being as we can only put people like this in prison........put him in women's prison I say...........Only the good die young.........that's why I'm still living
Sparkie

[PAWS]

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Oh sometimes it is tough to allow some people the full protection of the legal system but that’s what separates us from animals like him. I do think that his mental state will be a big issue and no matter how heinous the crime, no matter how tragic the consequences we have to go with that. However, I’m glad I will never have to be in a room alone with him, especially right at this moment.
Hey, why would a women's prison be worse -would they bitch him up well bad!!!!!!

[PAWS]

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George Osborne has actually said something really profound!
From BBC News:
British values will 'prevail' despite killing, says Osborne

Posted at 21:38

The attack on Jo Cox was an assault on the values of "freedom,liberty and justice", Chancellor George Osborne has said in an emotional speech at Mansion House, in the City of London.

People are free in this country to live their lives as they choose and express themselves without fear. Society will protect their right to do so and hold to account those who disregard our laws. Today's horrible events are an assault on all of these values. But we know that these values, no matter how they have been challenged in the past, have always prevailed, prevail today and they will always prevail. For they are the values of Great Britain, our great democracy.

[Snoopy1948]

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I know that as a polite society we tend to speak well of the dead but this woman was something else. She was exactly what the perfect politician should be;
Of the people, for the people.
.

Well said and exactly right ! The thing about it though is that it takes a death to realise and acknowledge this about someone who would normally blend into the political background although all the excellent press about Jo Cox suggests she was deemed for political stardom.

Regarding the circumstances of this sad event however, and from what we know so far, there may have been some deranged motive. And how did this individual, who we are told had learning difficulties, manage to possess a gun of sorts and ammunition in a country where we are all thankful for zero tolerance gun controls?

When I worked for local government as an outside officer, I was considered 'at risk' as I was a lone worker working pretty much into late evenings, 8 or 9pm. We were very much left to look after our own safety and for me, if I didn't like what I saw or heard, I would abandon the call and review the call at another daytime slot, although asking for another officer to accompany was often spurned as timewasting. The trouble is with my then job was that complacency sets in and it's not until a serious incident that health and safety prick their ears up.

I hope the sad death of Jo Fox focuses the fact that anyone on public duty is at risk and steps taken to review that. Having said that, a sick individual with a loaded weapon and the anger to use it without aforethought, may just be the one thing that's difficult to dodge.

[PAWS]

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I remember when I heard about Dunblane and Hungerford. I also remember watching as the second plane hit the tower in New York and was on my way to London on 7/7. I remember getting back into my car when the news about Omagh came on the radio. All these senseless deaths. All these innocent people slaughtered and the lives of their families destroyed for no apparent reason. Whether it be for a fanatical cause or the result of internal demons matters little when the blood is spilt and the lives are gone. Even retribution or justice cannot take the pain. shock and horror away.
We feel we will never trust our fellow human beings and repeatedly ask ‘what is the world coming too?’
But then the ordinary people suddenly shine through. The people who rally together in these battered communities. We remember the people who helped the wounded in the London underground. We remember the people searching through the rubble in New York. We remember people like Mick North from Dunblane who show us that nothing or no one will ever destroy our humanity. We see people like you who continued to keep law and order in often hopeless situations and stand between the peace loving majority and those who wish to drag us into a world of fear and hatred. It is when you see the courage and bravery or the ordinary everyday people you realise that despite all these events we live in a wonderful world. The ordinary people who may never get named in the media, the ordinary people who will not get knighthoods or be mentioned in parliament, the ordinary people who do good and walk away. The neighbour, the shop assistant, the police officer who puts their arm around you and with kind word and gesture helps you through the crisis. The Legal Beagle who stays on line when they are tired or busy and for no reward gets someone through a nightmare.
As I get older I realise that for every Tommy Mair or Michael Ryan there are thousands of decent selfless human beings who come out of the shadows and get families and communities through awful events like this and I give thanks for the many, many beautiful, incredible heroes.

[enaid]

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Tommy Mair charged, apparently he asked for help with his depression the night before this tragedy and was told to come back tomorrow and make an appointment.
I should imagine most of us thought he was suffering some kind of mental disorder to do what he did. On the other side he was able to premeditate his actions as he was armed with gun and knife.
Much more to surface on this imho and maybe we will never know the full story as most of it would be in Mairs mind, perhaps being refused immediate help he went to Jo placing the blame on her. An awful and devastating event for all concerned and maybe it could have been prevented who knows.

[PAWS]

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It is hard at this stage to know if or why Thomas Mair actually say ‘Britain First’ as he attacked Jo Cox but if he did it the question ‘did it have something to do with the Britain First organisation which was formed by members of the BNP’ may be asked. Now they deny this attack had anything to do with them but…..A BF march in January in the town of Dewsbury prompted this tweet by Jo Cox:
“Very proud of the people of Dewsbury and Batley today - who faced down the racism and fascism of the extreme right with calm unity.”
Of course the humanitarian in her made her an outspoken supporter of Syrian refugees.
When BF leader Paul Golding lost his bid to become Mayor of London and famously turned his back on Sadiq Khan as his victory was announced. Following this defeat they stated on their website that they would take
“militant direct action” against elected Muslim officials”
Chillingly,since then the Britain First website has received 1.4 million likes.
It is also known that Mair once subscribed to a South African Pro Apartheid magazine called SA Patriot.
Despite all this it is probable that the attack on Jo Cox was the random act of an unstable man and nothing to do with any right wing or similar organisation. Hopefully the truth will come out. Although knowing why this happened may bring little comfort. Her friends and family deserve some explanation and hopefully sound civilised justice will be available to those left in desperate mourning.

[charitynjw]

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One strange thing.....Who or what is the Southern Poverty Law Centre?
They seem to keep popping up in many of the reports I have read.

[leclerc]

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Come on, surely we all know how to use google

https://www.splcenter.org/


in regards to PAWS, I know where I was when I heard about Hungerford, I know where I was when I heard about 9/11 and I was in London on 7/7 and got to Paddington just as the underground was closed.

No one will remember Thomas Mair in 5 years time since the volume of deaths was not significant ie he killed one person. It will become a statistic. In terms of his motivation, let's wait for a trial and more information to be released.

[charitynjw]

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Come on, surely we all know how to use google

https://www.splcenter.org/