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    The government is spending more than £9m on sending a leaflet to every UK household setting out the case for remaining in the European Union.

    It says the 14-page document, to be sent to 27 million homes, responds to public demand for more details about the EU referendum by setting out the facts behind the government's position.
    Leave campaigners reacted with fury.
    Boris Johnson said it was wrong to try to "stampede" voters while Nigel Farage said the document was "full of lies".
    UKIP leader Mr Farage said the exercise was a "scam" and reinforced his view that the EU referendum on 23 June would be "defined by the battle of the people against the political elite".
    But David Cameron tweeted that "key facts" outlined in the document explained why the government believed "we are stronger, safer and better off in the EU".
    Royal Mail will start delivering the leaflets - entitled Why the Government Believes That Voting to Remain in the EU is the Best Decision for the UK - to households in England next week and in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland after the 5 May devolved elections.
    Instead, the leaflet is plain and official-looking, containing pictures of workers, shoppers and families, and concentrating overwhelmingly on what the government sees as the economic case for staying in the EU.
    It claims that "over three million UK jobs are linked to exports to the EU" and that "if the UK voted to leave the EU, the resulting economic shock would risk higher prices of some household goods".
    Officials described the document as "a straightforward, sober representation of the government case", designed both to change voters' minds and encourage others to register to vote.

    'Propaganda'

    They said internal opinion polls suggested that 85% of people wanted the government to provide more information so they could make an informed decision on 23 June.
    Environment Secretary Liz Truss said the leaflets would help voters do so. She also emphasised the government's view that EU membership "brings economic security, peace and stability".
    The government said the leaflets had cost £458,500 to produce and £5.94m to print and deliver across the UK. An additional £2.89m had been spent on the accompanying website and "digital promotion".
    But the move was met with thinly disguised anger by groups campaigning for EU exit.
    "I think it is deeply disappointing that the government is going to spend taxpayers' money in a bid to distract the media headlines away from the allegations of offshore banks that have dogged the prime minister," Robert Oxley, a Vote Leave spokesman, said.
    "Our money should not be used on propaganda, trying to buy votes. We already send £350m to Brussels each week. We should spend our money on our priorities like the NHS."
    London Mayor Mr Johnson, one of the most senior Conservative politicians to back leaving the EU, said the move was a "crazy waste of money".
    Both sides needed to be able to put across their arguments fairly to guarantee an "informed" debate, he said.
    Conservative MP Bernard Jenkin, a prominent supporter of Vote Leave, said it was "an outrageous abuse of taxpayers' money" which "flies in the face of the government's claim that they want a fair referendum".
    "In this one act, the government will spend more on their Remain campaign than the official Leave group will be able to spend between now and polling day," he said.
    'Error of judgement'

    Conservative MP Peter Bone, from Grassroots Out, said the move was a "major error of judgement" by Mr Cameron.
    "The prime minister promised Parliament that no taxpayers' money would be spent promoting Remain or Leave," he said.
    "What is being done is immoral, undemocratic and against what the government has promised. If this is not reversed it will seriously damage the prime minister's reputation."

    But former immigration minister Damian Green, a Britain Stronger In Europe campaign group board member, said ministers were giving people the information they had been asking for.
    He told BBC Radio 4's The World Tonight: "People have been crying out for facts. The government has produced a factual leaflet. Both sides will get a leaflet funded by the Electoral Commission during the actual period itself. That's what's fair."
    Officials said it was entirely legitimate for the government to make its case and said there was no legal reason why it could not do so.
    The decision to send the leaflet was agreed by the Cabinet sub-committee on the EU and was signed off by Cabinet Secretary Sir Jeremy Heywood.
    Speaking in Parliament last June, Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond ruled out sending mailshots during the so-called "purdah period" - the last 28 days before the vote when any official government role in the campaign will be banned.
    The government faced a backlash from Conservative MPs last autumn when they sought to relax the rules limiting ministerial activity in the immediate run-up to the poll, only backing down after losing a parliamentary vote.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-35980571
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  • #2
    Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

    Yet another U Turn, he did profit from his dads off shore dealings, when I distinctly heard him say just the other day he didn't.
    What a liar

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    • #3
      Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

      Does anyone know how the voteleave campaign is funded ? Is it purely private donation ?
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      • #4
        Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

        Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
        Does anyone know how the voteleave campaign is funded ? Is it purely private donation ?

        It is funded by people of different party affiliations including City millionaire and Tory donor Peter Cruddas, Labour's biggest private financial backer John Mills and Stuart Wheeler, a Tory-turned-UKIP donor.
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34484687



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        • #5
          Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

          IMHO

          If both sides are funded with the same or similar amounts, what's not fair?
          (& I would imagine they'll both scrutinise each other down to the last penny!)

          The decision whether to stay or to leave is going to have a massive impact on all areas of our lives.

          £18m is a mere drop in a bucket by comparison.

          That said, stealing a march in this way is a bit off - a concurrent leaflet distribution would have been more sensible & far less likely to provoke the ire of the 'leavers'.
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          • #6
            Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

            I think both sides have an equal amount to spend on the campaign, from what I can gather and I may be wrong this 'leaflet' is an extra from tax payers money.

            Ironic or what?

            It also emerged last night that the firm which printed the Government’s leaflet is owned by a German company given repeated hand-outs by the European Commission.

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            • #7
              Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

              £1.00 for every lie this government has told?

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              • #8
                Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

                It would appear the 'leavers' aren't exactly squeaky-clean either.

                https://twitter.com/nerdsville/status/717349092926615552/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
                CAVEAT LECTOR

                This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                Cohen, Herb


                There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                gets his brain a-going.
                Phelps, C. C.


                "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                The last words of John Sedgwick

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                • #9
                  Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

                  We got the begging leave leaflet, went in the bin as the other will be returned to sender.

                  While all the squabbling and petty dirty tactics is going on, we are not getting an informed opinion on what to expect, in or out. Time is flying and we will be left with a choice to make at the last minute or just say balls to the lot of it.
                  I don't believe anyone knows the truth of what will happen it is all speculation. I personally am going off how things are at present being IN and actually don't think things can get much worse for many in the UK.
                  I think the EU is going too big and taking on far too much to be controlled as a whole to suit one and all, human nature aside from finances just wont allow it.
                  So that's me I am an outer and wont change me mind am a stubborn old mare lol and by the by I don't know anyone personally who voted IN all those years ago when it was simply 'The Common Market' and not a shambles as it is now.
                  Last edited by enaid; 8th April 2016, 09:00:AM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

                    We should have laws to impeach David Cameron and his bent government... Lying Bastxxd
                    " Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak , Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen ". By Winston Churchill

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                    • #11
                      Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

                      The money would have been better spent on the NHS, social care etc ...

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                      • #12
                        Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-35995594
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                        • #13
                          Re: 9 mil well spent or not?

                          Cameron is a twit. When did he consult tax payers on how their money would be spent? Never. There is the Internet, TV, newspapers etc to put forward the government view on this subject, it would not cost 9 million. Just how many will read it?? And anyhow we weren't always in it .... we coped then. Just look at the Euro, what a lucky escape we had there. Same story then.

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