Producer from the police.. sorta

[JessB]

Hi to all the LBs, and Aunty don't panic I'm ok.

I'm on hols atm in Bournemouth with my boyfriend, and we borrowed his dads camper van. Neal is allowed to drive it, has a full licence and is fully insured as a named driver. His dad even gave him a letter of consent to drive the van. Some idiot jumped the dotted lines (I don't drive, erm, give way lines?) No one is hurt (for my aunt) but Neal was a bit shaken. The police were called and they breath tested Neal (he doesn't drink) and one policeman said he needed a producer, Neal had the papers in the van and showed the other policeman the papers.. sorry I sound really scatter brained I think it shook me a little too, the other policeman rang Neal's dad and confirmed he had permission to drive the van. Then he said ok as long as your ok. The other policeman (there were 2) said he needed a producer, then went to the other driver who witnesses say was on the phone at the time. Neal wasn't given anything and we don't know what to do. He has shown all the car papers to a policeman and been told that the other car driver is at fault.

I'm ok, he's ok but what do we do about this producer thing?

Aunty I'm ok I promise!

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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I dunno, i turn my back on you for one moment and you break Bournemouth?!?
Seriously, are you ok? Did they give Neal any paperwork at all? Is the van ok and can you get home?

[labman]

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If it is really niggling away at you and spoiling your holiday, go to a local police station to check all is well. If it isn't, personally I'd trust the police to have done their job and get on and enjoy your holiday.

If there is any damage which will involve an insurance claim, you may want to double check, as you don't mention exchanging details or anything.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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ty labman,

her dongle has decided to take a holiday too, im on the phone to her now. She says her boyfriend's dad arrived and sorted the insurance and stuff out, it was the producer thing that was worrying her boyfriend. They are both fine, and can get home, minimal damage apparently he drives like her Nan.
TEENAGERS!! they really do like causing you to have kittens dont they?!

[Bill-K]

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I agree with Labman. I'm sure BlueBottle will know, but if the copper who wanted the 'Producer' didn't issue any 'Producer' paperwork, then I'm of the opinion that he was probably a 'special' who was already trying to throw his assumed weight about. Take the docs into a local copshop, and insist that they give a full written acknowledgement that the listed documents were duly produced, as per instructions. THEN insist that they ARE listed.

The 'special' might learn summat from that. All in a good cause...

[IanM]

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I would have thought that as you produced your paperwork to the attending police officer and did not receive a producer then he must have been satisfied that you were legally driving the van and there was no need to attend a police station with your documents. If you have exchanged details with the other driver then submit a claim against them for any damage and injuries in the usual way.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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Further to Jess's note..

Jess told me on the phone she had text her dad to ring her (kids and credit on mobiles) and the police arrived.
They asked was Jess hurt and was her bf hurt, then went off with Neal to check the insurance details, speak to witnesses etc, she says to her mind it was less than 20 mins, and her phone rang. She didnt check the number, decided it was her dad, and was about to say hello dad when a voice said "We can help you make a claim after your recent accident!". Being a good, smart, firey tempered little red head, she said "if i decide to sue I will employ a solicitor, go forth and multiply (polite aunty version of course). She said she didnt catch the company name, and the number was withheld.

The police.. get your clapping hands ready people, heard her side of the conversation and said "was that an ambulance chaser? When you remember the name of the company, ring this number and report them!" and gave her the number of the OFT in bournemouth! :clap:

She's attended the hospital (after nagging) shes a bit bruised but its mainly pride injury with that one, and her bf is fine too.

[Galahad]

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I was unaware that producers were still used, the whole point of altering the powers that the police have is that if you cannot satisfy them at the roadside that you have the correct entitlement to drive the vehicle in question and that all other relevant paperwork is in order, then they take the vehicle off you there and then.

If they did a PNC check at the roadside, it would have shown to be taxed, MOT'd and insured, and thats that.

If they actually did want you to produce documents, you would have been given a slip HO/RT10, and you would also have been required to nominate a police station to produce your documents at. With that form you take your docs to a police station, they record the details, and notify the officer that issued the HO/RT10 that all documents are satisfactory, and no further action is taken.

If you've not had any of that, then there is no producer to produce.

[calamity jane]

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Further to Jess's note..

Jess told me on the phone she had text her dad to ring her (kids and credit on mobiles) and the police arrived.
They asked was Jess hurt and was her bf hurt, then went off with Neal to check the insurance details, speak to witnesses etc, she says to her mind it was less than 20 mins, and her phone rang. She didnt check the number, decided it was her dad, and was about to say hello dad when a voice said "We can help you make a claim after your recent accident!". Being a good, smart, firey tempered little red head, she said "if i decide to sue I will employ a solicitor, go forth and multiply (polite aunty version of course). She said she didnt catch the company name, and the number was withheld.

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If Neal or his father had been in touch with their Insurance Company, it could have been them who sold details to a claims company.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/c...ack-Straw.html

CJ

[bluebottle]

Re: Producer from the police.. sorta

Further to Jess's note..

Jess told me on the phone she had text her dad to ring her (kids and credit on mobiles) and the police arrived.
They asked was Jess hurt and was her bf hurt, then went off with Neal to check the insurance details, speak to witnesses etc, she says to her mind it was less than 20 mins, and her phone rang. She didnt check the number, decided it was her dad, and was about to say hello dad when a voice said "We can help you make a claim after your recent accident!". Being a good, smart, firey tempered little red head, she said "if i decide to sue I will employ a solicitor, go forth and multiply (polite aunty version of course). She said she didnt catch the company name, and the number was withheld.

The police.. get your clapping hands ready people, heard her side of the conversation and said "was that an ambulance chaser? When you remember the name of the company, ring this number and report them!" and gave her the number of the OFT in bournemouth! :clap:

She's attended the hospital (after nagging) shes a bit bruised but its mainly pride injury with that one, and her bf is fine too.

Obviously, CMCs have well peed-off Dorset Police and Bournemouth Trading Standards. Regarding the HO/RT1, that is simply to check that everything is in order, driving licence, insurance and MOT wise. The PNC checks will only tell the police if the vehicle has valid documents showing on the MID and VOSA MOT databases. If the lad produced his documents to the police at the scene, fine, there is no need for a HO/RT1 to be issued.