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    Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden dead - Barack Obama
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    Bin Laden was top of the US "most wanted" list
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    Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden has been killed by US forces in Pakistan, President Barack Obama has said.

    Bin Laden was killed in a ground operation outside Islamabad based on US intelligence, the first lead for which emerged last August.

    Mr Obama said after "a firefight", US forces took possession of his body.

    Bin Laden is believed to be the mastermind of the attacks on New York and Washington on 11 September 2001 and a number of others.

    He was top of the US' "most wanted" list.

    Mr Obama said it was "the most significant achievement to date in our nation's effort to defeat al-Qaeda".

    The US has put its embassies around the world on alert, warning Americans of the possibility of al-Qaeda reprisal attacks for Bin Laden's killing.

    Crowds gathered outside the White House in Washington DC, chanting "USA, USA" after the news emerged.

    A US official quoted by Associated Press news agency said Bin Laden's body had been buried at sea, although this has not been confirmed.

    Compound raided
    Bin Laden had approved the 9/11 attacks in which nearly 3,000 people died.

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    Analysis

    Roger Hardy
    Islamic affairs analyst
    How will al-Qaeda react? In the short term, the Obama administration is already bracing itself for possible revenge attacks. But for many the bigger question is whether, in the longer run, al-Qaeda can survive.

    Since the start of the year, some experts have argued that the uprisings in the Arab world have rendered it irrelevant. They will see Bin Laden's death as confirming the trend. Perhaps.

    But the root causes of radical Islam - the range of issues that enabled al-Qaeda to recruit disaffected young Muslims to its cause - remain, for the most part, unaddressed. The death of Bin Laden will strike at the morale of the global jihad, but is unlikely to end it.

    He evaded the forces of the US and its allies for almost a decade, despite a $25m bounty on his head.

    Mr Obama said he had been briefed last August on a possible lead to Bin Laden's whereabouts.

    "It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground," Mr Obama said.

    "I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located Bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan.

    "And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorised an operation to get Osama Bin Laden and bring him to justice," the president said.

    On Sunday a team of US forces undertook the operation in Abbottabad, 100km (62 miles) north-east of Islamabad.

    After a "firefight" Bin Laden was killed and his body taken by US forces, the president said.

    Mr Obama said "no Americans were harmed".

    Giving more details of the operation, a senior US official said a small US team had conducted the raid in about 40 minutes.

    One helicopter was lost due to "technical failure". The team destroyed it and left in its other aircraft.

    Three other men were killed in the raid - one of Bin Laden's sons and two couriers - the official said, adding that one woman was also killed when she was used as "a shield" and two other women were injured.

    The size and complexity of the structure in Abbottabad had "shocked" US officials.



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    It had 4m-6m (12ft-18ft) walls, was eight times larger than other homes in the area and was valued at "several million dollars", though it had no telephone or internet connection.

    The US official said that intelligence had been tracking a "trusted courier" of Bin Laden for many years. The courier's identity was discovered four years ago, his area of operation two years ago and then, last August, his residence in Abbottabad was found, triggering the start of the mission.

    Another senior US official said that no intelligence had been shared with any country, including Pakistan, ahead of the raid.

    "Only a very small group of people inside our own government knew of this operation in advance," the official said.

    The Abbottabad residence is just a few hundred metres from the Pakistan Military Academy - the country's equivalent of West Point.

    The senior US official warned that the possibility of revenge attacks had now created "a heightened threat to the homeland and to US citizens and facilities abroad".

    But the official added that "the loss of Bin Laden puts the group on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse".

    He said Bin Laden's probable successor, Ayman al-Zawahiri, was "far less charismatic and not as well respected within the organisation", according to reports from captured al-Qaeda operatives.

    'Momentous achievement'
    Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Bin Laden had "paid for his actions".

    A Pakistani government statement said Bin Laden's death "illustrates the resolve of the international community, including Pakistan, to fight and eliminate terrorism".

    Former US President George W Bush described the news as a "momentous achievement".


    "The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done," Mr Bush said in a statement.

    BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says that, to many in the West, Bin Laden became the embodiment of global terrorism, but to others he was a hero, a devout Muslim who fought two world superpowers in the name of jihad.

    The son of a wealthy Saudi construction family, Bin Laden grew up in a privileged world. But soon after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan he joined the mujahideen there and fought alongside them with his Arab followers, a group that later formed the nucleus for al-Qaeda.

    After declaring war on America in 1998, Bin Laden is widely believed to have been behind the bombings of US embassies in East Africa, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000 and the attacks on New York and Washington.

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    "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
    (quote from David Ogden Stiers)
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    A US official quoted by Associated Press news agency said Bin Laden's body had been buried at sea, although this has not been confirmed ???
    seems a tad fishy

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    • #3
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      Confirmed that he was buried at sea within 24 hours of his death which is in keeping with the Muslim faith. No country would accept his body(Saudi Arabia had already stripped him of his nationality). He was identified initially by one of his wives and then later by DNA. They retrieved other material which have recently arrived at CIA headquarters.

      Currently there is a news conference in the US currently on News24 and Sky News(if you are not sick of the coverage already).
      "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
      (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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      • #4
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        With any luck the sharks would have eaten his body.
        If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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        • #5
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          I am not sure anyone is that bothers what happened to the body. Depending on your perspective on death or even life. We as mammals eat other mammals so the likelihood is that he will be fishfood now that he is deposited into the sea.
          I think the wall to wall coverage though is kinda ignoring other stories such as the Libyan conflict but maybe tomorrow the news might change. I am getting bin laden fatigue
          "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
          (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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          • #6
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            One thing is for sure this gives Barack Obama a second term in office.
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            This has also given Will and Kate a respite from the press which they are probably glad off.
            Last edited by pompeyfaith; 2nd May 2011, 20:52:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
            If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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            • #7
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              ........and probably might have been one reason why their honeymoon might have been delayed . The operation was due to take place on the Sunday morning and I assume they may well have had the news of his death already around some security sources earlier.

              Completely agree with you about Barack Obama because he was having a torrid time. Recently he had Donald Trump on his back over his birth certificate which he then produced to show he was born in Hawaii and therefore is the legitimate president born in the USA. He didn't close down Guantanamo Bay and so the killing of Osama has in fact boosted his popularity no end since Bush the clown failed miserably.
              "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
              (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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              • #8
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                Can I just ask, probably not exactly on the Bin Laden subject but it springs tomind so I'll ask it anyway, as this is sort of about politics and America etc...

                If the situation in Libya was so bad that we/United nations/everyone else had to impose a no fly zone then jump in all guns blazing to "protect the civilians/Libyan people" etc etc and even now are bombing like it's going out of fashion, (I fail to see how that comes under imposing a no fly zone) but I digress...if the above applies to Libya, why haven't we/America/UN etc done the same to Syria? Seems to me the nutter in charge over there is killing quite a few of his own people, so what's different?

                I know we took the "major" step of disinviting the Syrian ambassador to the Royal Wedding but don't think that would have as much effect as a few strategically placed bombs from numerouse squadrons of fighter planes, now would it? Or am I being a tad cynical here?
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                • #9
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                  UN Resolution states that "all necessary means" should be used to protect civilian populations(so it's not just a no fly zone).
                  Syria has got sanctions but the UN does not hate President Assad as much as Gaddafi. I would add Bahrain to the list with regards to the UN as well.
                  Furthermore, Syria does not have oil, a man who is accused of sponsoring terrorism or someone who all of the UN despises.
                  "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
                  (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by leclerc View Post
                    ........but the UN does not hate President Assad as much as Gaddafi. ....

                    Furthermore, Syria does not have oil, a man who is accused of sponsoring terrorism or someone who all of the UN despises.
                    Hmmm........so that must make killing off your own people okay then. Bunch of bloody hypocrites.

                    Although n the other hand it's probably just as well as we probably don't have enough troops to go round anyway.
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                    • #11
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                      He was the people's terrorist innit.

                      We will never forget you, Obama Bill Hayden.
                      Last edited by CleverClogs; 3rd May 2011, 12:24:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by WendyB View Post
                        if the above applies to Libya, why haven't we/America/UN etc done the same to Syria?
                        why haven't we done it to north korea, china, zimbabwe, iran? because they're iether too powerful or there aint any money in it for us. one or 'tother. libya has oil. syria has dust. bottom line for the apparatchiks in washington and brussels.

                        at least this has UN sanction and is supposedly legal, unlike blair's illegal wars in iraq and sierra leone.

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                        • #13
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                          Yes I agree completely, and I've actually mentioned all those before on the other thread that was started a few weeks ago.
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                          • #14
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                            What amazes me is that Bin Laden was held up in Pakistan for ages, the Pakistani's are denying all knowledge of him being there yet his compound was just 800 metres from their equivalent of our Sandhurst and they say they were not suspicious of a compound with no communications, no windows etc, yeah right believe that NOT.
                            AND
                            We in the last year we have sent them 650 million POUNDS of our hard earned cash to keep that country and its 'alleged' poor, so in my mind we are effectively paying them to raise and train those who terrorise us.
                            Its about time we stopped funding these countries and start looking after our own.

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                            • #15
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                              It is (more or less) an acknowledged fact that the ISI - Pakistani Intelligence Service - assisted the Mujahadeen when they were fighting Russian troops in the late 1970s and 1980s. The Mujahadeen may not have received the latest anti-aircraft missiles, but the UK did supply them covertly with a wire guided system made by Shorts.

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