Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on Court

[Amethyst]

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Urgent. The most important campaign so far!

We now need the biggest show of strengh ever.
This means the involvement of every consumer site avaliable.

Any differences between consumer sites must now be laid to rest. We need to address this current situation together with every piece of ammunition we have as a collective to once and for all bring about justice and truth. We need to become the brightest star. We need to be the sunlight leading the way. For too long we have been quiet voices in the dark. As the test case moves into its final stages we must now make a final stand and become one voice.

Stephen Hone is calling for a meeting to collectively create a new letter which can be posted to all local mp`s, newspapers, TV and any media output we can think of.

We do not want the current economic climate to be of any influence in the court room. We need to influence the situation with our own realities. The fact that now even more members of society are and will be affected by the shoddy behaviour of our financial institutions.
Poverty is on the up and the struggle will get harder for many people. If we want this to change we must show our strenght now, together.

A meeting is being called between all consumer action sites. Please spread these words.
A meeting of minds must happen so we can continue with the might and strenght of a giant.

If you can get involved or you know anyone who wants to get involved then please contact us by pm or email.

This is just the start of a very powerful campaign.

All ideas welcome. Please feel free to use this thread to express any positive input.

If we can cause a huge surge of info on the masses then it will be heard.

Onwards and Upwards folks!

rezza8

any thoughts ?

[Amy]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

Nice thought, but I think he'll need an awful lot of luck to pull this one off.

[Paule]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

We do not want the current economic climate to be of any influence in the court room. We need to influence the situation with our own realities.

To be honest I hope the Judges dont take influence from anyone or it would just be a mockery of the system.

This is just the start of a very powerful campaign.

Is it not the conclusion of the charges campaign?? to find out once and for all whether the charges are fair and if they can be challenged?

[Mochamoo]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

OK I think it is worth a shot, It certainly can not harm the cause.

LB Members c2000
PCF Members 36500
CCS Memebrs 700
MSE Members 405000
CAG Members 200000

If just half of those members helped and sent letters or signed a petition or what ever is chosen then it would be hard to ignore

Positive thinking

[Sapphire]

I agree with Mocha, perhaps a well written letter that can be copied and pasted and sent to the powers that be, including the Prime Minister, MP's, Simon Cowell, and the Judges might be the way forward.
What about a petition on the Prime Ministers site as well.
Although the chances of getting 'all' the sites to work together on it, are probably as likely as a one legged man winning an arse kicking contest.

But worth a shot I think.

[Amethyst]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

rofl Simon Cowell ?

And petitioning what ?

I'd be extremely worried about our justice system if external factor impacted at all in this case, legally.

It may effect the way the FSA etc decides to orgainse the refunds (eg limiting to the £8 threshold etc) after the OFT have told the banks the charges are unfair, but that will be challenged in court. It is a fact of law that is being decided and the law is written, they can't say yes the charges may be judged under fairness principles but we'll ignore that as the countries in a bit of financial poop.

[Amy]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

I was trying to refer discreetly to A N Other site that has shown little if any desire to work with any other site.

[scoobydoo]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

I think I agree that as the court case is in progress there is little to be done except keep pressing on hardship cases. I think the only point is that the banks ought to realise that by keep delaying the final decision thay will be reducing consumer confidence even more, and percieved as taking advantage of the current financial sitation. In other words the general public believe that there will be a ruling in the consumers favour in the end but the banks are just postponing the inevitable at a time that the consumers need help more than ever.

I think that the next campaign would be for those that can ,to vote with their feet and join credit unions .

[natweststaffmember]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

Psychophantic short term nonsense. Do I need to explain my viewpoint further?

[EXC]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

I understand Stephen's sentiments and share his desparation but it's all been done before and failed. The entire bank charges issue has gon beyond the campaigning stage now. We've been given the opportunity to influence the outcome by consultation to the PCA report and that's where the action is.

[Amethyst]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

Stephen did say he was producing a response to the PCA - do we know if this is still the case?

[EXC]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

I don't know. Anyone?

I don't know about CAG either but I believe strongly that we're doing the right thing by getting it done proffesionally.

[natweststaffmember]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

I want to apologise to Rezza and the Penalty Charges team for my initial response. I am afraid I have seen vitriolic words and yet no action many a time on bank charges forums.
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, if any campaign should be had now, it is about Financial Hardship. The FSA waiver is due to end January 2009 and I think more publicity should be given to cases where their bank have said that they were not in hardship, either because the debts were not due to the PCA provider or that they were marginally decided that they were "just" above water. I am sure people from all sites can be asked to sit around a table and discuss things, but whether they will drink from the water when they are at loggerheads at the moment may be a different thing. I admire the tone of the post but there does not appear much depth as to the actual content of what is being done. I have written this here because the PC thread says at the end BE POSITIVE and I will be once the pencil is sharpened and I see the point.

[Amethyst]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

All sites are not at loggerheads at all Nats.

[natweststaffmember]

Re: Penalty charges site 'call for action' against influence of economic climate on C

Amethyst, you can take a horse to water but it doesn't mean it will drink, I was making an analogy. Considering the last month, I suspect two people who are leaders of a forum would be able to sit down, but whether they(site A) would be able to work together(with SITE B, C, D, E and F) is IN MY OWN ENTIRELY UNIQUE SIMPLE BANKING BRAIN OPINION, unlikely. Hope the clarification of the post helps even though it was entirely a passing comment to what I was actually saying.