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  • Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

    Find out more about WeRe Bank’s activities and why we have some concerns about it.

    http://www.fca.org.uk/news/consumer-notice-were-bank

    The FCA has received many reports from consumers, public bodies and commercial organisations about an entity styling itself as WeRe Bank. Find out more about WeRe Bank’s activities and why we have some concerns about it.
    How it works

    WeRe Bank is a UK-based venture which purports to be a people’s or community bank, and appears to have created its own currency, the RE.

    Members of the Re-Movement are required to issue a Promissory Note (a legal instrument in which one party agrees in writing to pay a sum of money to the other party) to WeRe Bank to the sum of £150,000, which is payable ‘within a ten-year anniversary’ from the time of joining (however, WeRe Bank states that it will not need to call in the Promissory Note). Members are then able to buy RE cheque books.

    WeRe Bank states that its cheques can be used to pay all your public liabilities (such as council tax demands, utility payments, tax) and private payments between consenting parties (including mortgages). Its website claims that, under sections 42 and 43 of the Bills of Exchange Act 1882, if your payment is refused the Payee is acting in dishonour and your liability for the payment ceases.
    Why we are concerned

    Although WeRe Bank refers to itself as a bank, based on the information currently available to us, it does not appear to be carrying on any activities that would require it to be authorised by the FCA. Regulated activities carried out by authorised firms include accepting deposits or providing advice on regulated investments.

    We are concerned that vulnerable consumers may be attracted to WeRe Bank’s claim that they will be able to pay off their debts ‘for free’ using RE cheques, even though they have not had to pay any money into an account.

    Cheque & Credit (C&C) is the interbank payment system in England, Scotland and Wales that processes cheques and other paper instruments. C&CCCL (Cheque and Credit Clearing Company Ltd) operates the C&C payment system. www.chequeandcredit.co.uk

    The C&CCCL states that cheques are not legal tender and never have been. This means that if you owe someone money, they are not obliged to accept a cheque. Instead, a creditor is entitled to be paid in legal tender and can refuse payment in any other form.

    We have received numerous reports from financial institutions, councils, utility companies and other businesses that have been presented with WeRe cheques by consumers attempting to pay off their debts. None of these institutions has accepted the cheques as legitimate payment.

    As such, while WeRe Bank does not appear to be carrying on any activities which require FCA authorisation, we advise any consumers considering dealing with WeRe Bank to proceed with caution.

    We believe that you are unlikely to be able to pay any of your debts using a cheque from WeRe Bank. Instead, you may end up with additional charges from your creditors for late payment. You could eventually be subject to other sanctions such as County Court Judgements or repossession proceedings.

    You should also be aware that if you deal with a firm that is not authorised by us, you will not have access to the Financial Ombudsman Service or Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) if things go wrong.

    Consumer Helpline

    Telephone: 0800 111 6768

    See more ways to contact us
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  • #2
    Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

    What happens when the council/credit card company etc, pay the cheques into their account ? Presumably the money has to come from the WeRE account.

    It's like trying to pay with Monopoly money. lol.

    None of these institutions has accepted the cheques as legitimate payment.
    Freeman on the land anyone?

    Wonder if they will actually try calling in these £150k 'promissory notes' in ten years.
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    • #3
      Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

      Groan...

      WeRe Bank’s principal trading asset is called the Re. It is a unit of space and time and has Value as it is “exchangeable” or trade-able.” Units are created through expenditure of effort over time and we hold these units “on account” and pay them out to our customers. The units are (energy × expended time = REWARD) based upon exceptionally sound principles of Albert Einstein’s (e = mc²), where m = mass, c = speed/time, e=energy (General Theory of Relativity). This equation, upon reflection is the only SOUND premise for a unit of exchange/currency in this world. Units are denominated in 2 skill/time classes:



      BUT

      The joining fee for ReMovement is £35, which entitles you to open a WeRe Bank account and receive a cheque book, plus 1st month membership.
      Thereafter there is a monthly subscription fee of £10 per month payable quarterly, half yearly or annually.
      Monthly subscription fee can be paid with joining fee.
      And they don't accept postal orders or cheques made out to anyone - so send them a blank cheque ffs.
      pmsl

      WE DON'T TAKE CHEQUES MADE OUT TO ANYONE. IF THEY WISH TO SEND THEM, THEN THEY MUST LEAVE THE PAYEE BLANK. DO NOT MAKE THESE OUT TO Peter of England, Peter OF WERE BANK, WERE BANK etc, as we are not dealing with the banking system other than as a passive force, a defensive force. We cannot use them to CASH and AID us if we are seeking to make then obsolete.
      Originally posted by were bank website
      were5
      The Free Fair and Final Public Bank System
      Created under Common Law and Regulated Under Common Law Court of Record 750181
      Providing
      "Legal Money with Finality of Settlement"

      FREE FROM ALL TAXATION FREE FROM ALL INFLATION FREE FROM ALL INTEREST FREE FROM USURY FREE FROM CENTRAL BANKS

      FREE FROM ALL, EVERY AND ANY STATUTORY PLANETARY POLITICAL ROGUE REGIME DICTATE OR ORDER

      RECONSTITUTED BY REPEAL OF THE 1911 1949 PARLIAMENTARY ACT AND REPEAL OF THE GOLD STANDARD

      AMENDMENT ACT 26th SEPTEMBER 1931

      ReMember... ReMember...

      “A path is only a path, and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you . . . Look at every path closely and deliberately. Try it as many times as you think necessary. Then ask yourself alone, one question . . . Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't it is of no use.” ― Carlos Castaneda
      lol.

      The WeRe Bank chequeing account from ReMovement provides you with

      ASSURED DEBT ERADICATION ON ALL “PUBLIC SIDE OF THE LEDGER LIABILITIES” as follows:

      CREDIT CARD DEBTS

      BANKRUPTCY SETTLEMENTS

      MORTGAGE RE-PAYMENTS

      MORTGAGE ARREARS
      CREDIT AGREEMENTS

      CREDIT CARD RE-PAYMENTS

      STUDENT LOANS

      CREDIT CARD ARREARS
      COUNCIL TAX DEMANDS

      COUNCIL TAX ARREARS

      TV LICENCE

      ROAD TAX

      H.M.R.C - VAT, PAYE, SA, FINES
      COURT FINES - ANY DEMAND FOR PAYMENT FROM H.M.Courts

      SHERIFF OR BAILIFF ORDERS/WARRANTS FOR MONETARY ORDERS

      SPEEDING, PARKING TICKETS - ANY POLICE ENFORCEMENT ORDERS

      VEHICLE, TRACTOR, MACHINERY CREDIT REPAYMENTS
      PROBATE DEBTS - FAMILY ESTATE

      UTILITIES - GAS, WATER, ELECTRIC
      WeRe Bank Offers Unity and so strength in numbers

      WeRe Bank offers only non-scrip or cheque book money. It is, a provider of finality of settlement under common law on the spot of time for all private, PUBLIC and commercial transactions.

      WeRe Bank does NOT recognise as an OBLIGATION the PUBLIC side of any liability created against you since in 1931 in the United Kingdom, 1933 in the United States of America and globally from 22 July 1944 – all global inhabitants and sovereign beings had the ability to pay in lawful money taken from them by various bankster invasions based on the way that the money supply had been used historically.

      From this point on you were FORCED from the private side to THE PUBLIC SIDE OF THE ACCOUNT and made to accept a fiat currency created by criminal banksters using Fractional Reserve Lending, usurious practices, deception, guile and trickery to steal the energy wealth from you.
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      • #4
        Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

        It's run by "Peter of England" - http://www.werebank.com/ (although this sounds more like it IMO - http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Forum:T...torm_of_stupid). He charges £10 (sterling) a month membership and £25 (sterling) for a 'cheque book' that enables you to issue promissory notes to your creditors.
        Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

        It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

        recte agens confido

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        • #5
          Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

          Ouch and they are stating you can use these invented cheques to pay criminal court fines...

          You are required/asked to issue a Promissory Note payable to WeRe Bank up to the sum of £150,000//148,000Re payable “within a 10 year anniversary” from the time of JOINING. The Promissory Note acts as the Bank/collectives/co-operatives REAL ASSETS in the vaults. 148,000 Re units will purchase around £296,000 in sterling priced goods In the private sector.
          Once your ReMembership is confirmed and we are in receipt of your Promissory Note you will be issued with your DSC's
          Your DSC's (Debt Settlement Cheques) are FREE and will include your NAME, WeRE Account Number and be individually numbered.
          Your monthly or annual fee is ReCredited to your WeRe Bank account ensuring that you don’t lose out and that WeRe Bank has ethically converted energy into wealth and NOT just emptily Xeroxed off fiat currency and engaged in Babylonian usurious energy theft.
          DSC's books contain 25 cheques and are sufficient to provide the writing of one [1] DSC per week (average) for 6months for the paying of all your PUBLIC liabilities – HMRC, VAT, Council Tax, Speeding and Motoring Fines, all court fines and utilities. Private payments can be made between consenting parties.
          Wonder how many £35 subs they receive.
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          • #6
            Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

            Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
            Groan...
            WeRe Bank does NOT recognise as an OBLIGATION the PUBLIC side of any liability created against you since in 1931 in the United Kingdom, 1933 in the United States of America and globally from 22 July 1944 – all global inhabitants and sovereign beings had the ability to pay in lawful money taken from them by various bankster invasionsbased on the way that the money supply had been used historically.
            are they a bit like Alien Invasions?

            Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

            It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

            recte agens confido

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            • #7
              Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

              It is a long, long thread but you can have a laugh or sympathise with some of them http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...p?f=52&t=10712

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              • #8
                Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                I must have had my head under a bush for the last few months lol xx Thanks plods, will keep that for bedtime reading.
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                • #9
                  Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                  Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
                  I must have had my head under a bush for the last few months lol xx Thanks plods, will keep that for bedtime reading.
                  There are quite a few others we have knowledge of on there and must admit joined up to read myself - well worth it and have many a good chuckle over the last few months - obviously I won't mention them by name but am sure you will recognise most of them.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                    I love how the short thread is now up to 59 pages :lol:
                    Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                    It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

                    recte agens confido

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                    • #11
                      Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                      Ahh that's so funny ( and quite depressing !)
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                      • #12
                        Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                        Bit on Radio 4 today about this http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0783lmy

                        A website called WeRe Bank is telling people it can pay off their debts using its own currency. The Financial Conduct Authority is concerned that it could lead vulnerable people into deeper debt.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                          Originally posted by ploddertom View Post
                          It is a long, long thread but you can have a laugh or sympathise with some of them http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...p?f=52&t=10712
                          Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
                          Ahh that's so funny ( and quite depressing !)
                          They're up to thread 3 on Quatloos now - http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...p?f=52&t=10846
                          85 pages and counting since 27/10/15, but there's a few interesting bits coming to light.

                          • PoE got sick of the English 'conspiracy' to stop his currency/bank working
                          • He started trying to get people in the USA and Canada to join
                          • Lots of people both here and in the US/Canada started trying to re-pay (or should that be RePay :lol their mortgages with the "WeRe" cheques/promisory notes
                          • Canada courts came right out and said that WeRe is NOT a bank/the "Re currency" is useless.
                          • People started losing their houses as a result
                          • PoE moved on to Germany/Austria/Switzerland as his next 'run' (obviously we in the UK and the Americans/Canadians weren't doing it right)
                          • German (and Austrian) courts have now both said that WeRe are not to be accepted as currency ... people are being taken to court and losing their homes/getting criminal records
                          • There's now been a case in the uk (see attachment) where the FOS admit that WeRe bank does NOT make payments on the 'cheques' that subscribers try to pay their debts with


                          (I'm up to page #72 of the third Quatloos thread)
                          Attached Files
                          Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                          It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

                          recte agens confido

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                          • #14
                            Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                            PofE should have known that you can't magic money out of thin air.

                            Can you?
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation
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                            • #15
                              Re: Consumer notice: WeRe Bank

                              Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                              PofE should have known that you can't magic money out of thin air.

                              Can you?
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation
                              but ...

                              PoE has his majik rune that helps him to get these things done (or so I've been told msl
                              Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                              It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

                              recte agens confido

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