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    It has been suggested that Banks now operate more a utility type service/facility and should bill customers for the service they use each month, much in the way your electricity company/telephone company do - by billing you.

    So basically; you have a free if in credit type bank account, during the month you might purchase a variety of services by using your account - this could be 'instant overdraft requests', or a 'packaged account'

    The bank, much as an electric company does, bills you for the services you have used that month, and give you the standard 30 days to pay, by a method of your choice, on a date of your choice.

    So rather than the bank helping themselves to your money, they bill you for the service provided. If the service was crap you argue, if theres anomonlies you argue, if its right you pay it, - as you can afford to (like any bill).

    Basically it gives you back your first right of appropriation over your money without having to beg.

    Yes people could pay the bill by DD, a fixed average amount or the entire charges, on a suitable date (like just after payday) so it needn't be less convenient for those occassional fee incurrers. It would enable people to know exactly where they stand and budget and would be more obvious to the bank where there are problems forming. Could pay by bill payment from their account, debit card etc etc.

    Plus any problems with charges on the bank account don't sprial off out of control as the charges are standalone for a specific service and can't incur further charges or stop you paying another bill because of them.

    What do you reckon ? (my explanation is probably poop)

    (Od debit interest and credit interest would still operate on the account as normal we're simply talking about additional 'fees for a service or package of services'.)

    The ONLY reason banks give for not doing it like this is as the BBA have stated '' Because the bank manages your account, it has the ability to make a debit from that account in payment for services it has provided to you. This is quicker and more efficient than having to send you an invoice.''
    Last edited by Amethyst; 3rd February 2010, 13:58:PM.
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    Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

    As long as it is not going to increase the costs for them raising an invoice than we are already paying.

    Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
    It has been suggested that Banks now operate more a utility type service/facility and should bill customers for the service they use each month, much in the way your electricity company/telephone company do - by billing you.

    So basically; you have a bank account, during the month you purchase a variety of services by using your account - this could be 'instant overdraft requests', or a 'packaged account'

    The bank, much as an electric company does, bills you for the services you have used that month, and give you the standard 30 days to pay, by a method of your choice, on a date of your choice.

    So rather than the bank helping themselves to your money, they bill you for the service provided. If the service was crap you argue, if theres anomonlies you argue, if its right you pay it, - as you can afford to (like any bill).

    Basically it gives you back your first right of appropriation over your money without having to beg.

    Yes people could pay the bill by DD, a fixed average amount or the entire charges, on a suitable date (like just after payday) so it needn't be less convenient for those occassional fee incurrers. It would enable people to know exactly where they stand and budget and would be more obvious to the bank where there are problems forming. Could pay by bill payment from their account, debit card etc etc.

    Plus any problems with charges on the bank account don't sprial off out of control as the charges are standalone for a specific service and can't incur further charges or stop you paying another bill because of them.

    What do you reckon ? (my explanation is probably poop)

    (Od debit interest and credit interest would still operate on the account as normal we're simply talking about additional 'fees for a service or package of services'.

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    • #3
      Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

      I think that is a good idea. as long as the charges are fully explained in PIL, that the T&C's are the same and can not be fiddled about with at their pleasure so to speak.
      Also that the charges be reasonable so that the consumer at least feels they are being fairly dealt with and getting what they pay for.

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      • #4
        Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

        It would also enable people to close accounts when you have outstanding charges rather than being unable to get away because charges are pending which will make switching easier, charges would be much more transparent and predictable, more understandable.

        Also could protect against set off (ref Lcsb)
        Last edited by Amethyst; 3rd February 2010, 14:24:PM.
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        • #5
          Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

          Yes not being able to switch accounts to get a better deal because they owe charges was very unfair imo. If they do close an account with outstanding charges and people fail to pay what will happen in that case? Would it be treated like any other unpaid debt?

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          • #6
            Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

            Couldn't this make them disclose how they calculate charges (just a thought :biggrin1
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            • #7
              Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

              Yes I'd think so, exactly same as with your leccy bill.

              They could have limits so if your bill is a certain amount in a month they can say okay theres a problem, we're going to stop you using that facility until you have paid up, or move you to a basic account so you cant incur those fees etc. or give notice to close account (ie stop providing service)

              They could charge late payment fees on payment of the bill (which naturally have to be proportional like credit cards etc)

              I think people would complain that it is another bill to think about, but really they are happy enough to add extra bills for broadband/sky/mobile phone type stuff. I really don't see why it should be any different because the service you are buying is the use of a bank account.

              Costs wise maybe cost the bank a bit more, (to hold the extra customer accounts for bills) not more paperwise etc as they could just stick them with statements instead of advertising guff or have a Service BILL section on online banking and would lose them a heck of a lot of profit on the charges on charges (which would be funny to see them argue) and they could argue that charges would be higher because of it (hmmmm dont they make more than enough profit already) but it'd also be much more visible and competitive and wipe out a heck of a lot of the problems with bank charges.
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              • #8
                Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

                It may work the other way too though, if people are notified of their bill aforehand and see how much it is they may just do a bit of budgeting and help them realise maybe they can manage after all left to their own devices and without being totally ripprd off.

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                • #9
                  Re: monthly billing for bank charges?

                  We put the idea forward briefly at the OFT meet yesterday and it was welcomed by the Which? panel.

                  I'm sure there will be something in Pagets Law of Banking that says why they can't but that can be changed.

                  If people are in support of the idea I'm writing up formal submissions now and would appreciate as much input and opinion as possible.

                  Are Banks now Utilities ?

                  Would seperate billing for services solve the problems ?

                  Would it be more inconvenient ?
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