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  • Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

    Over the weekend all newspapers carried reports that the Ministry of Justice would be seeking to change the law about 'internet trolls' and increasing the prison sentence from 6 months to 2 years.


    Below I have provided links to two documents from the Ministry of Justice. One is a news item that was released today and the second link is to the updated Impact Assessment (from July 2014) that was also released today.


    One change is to amend Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 so as to extend the time for prosecutions of offences. But the main change is to :


    Section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988.


    This section covers the sending.....delivering....or transmitting of any letters, or electronic communications (on forums, blogs or any social media etc) or any other article which could include, for example, photographs and recordings that are indecent, grossly offensive or which convey a threat or:


    information which the sender knows or believes to be false.


    It also covers the sending of such articles which are, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature.


    Crucially, in each case there must be an intention on the part of the sender (or person writing the article to “cause distress or anxiety” to the person who receives the communication.

    At present, an offence under section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988 of sending certain articles with intent to cause "distress or anxiety" is a summary-only offence with a maximum penalty of just six months imprisonment, a fine of £5,000, or both.


    Most importantly, at present, prosecutions must commence within a very strict time period of just six months from the date of the offence being committed.


    This short period of time is to increase and the Ministry of Justice stated yesterday that this will allow for police investigating internet offences such as 'trolling' to obtain "evidence from internet service providers based abroad"


    The changes to section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act have been brought by amending the Criminal Justice Bill to make the offence in section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988 an 'either way offence' and increasing the maximum penalty to 2 years imrisonment or an unlimited fine, or both.


    In 2012, there were approx 750 proceedings under Section 1 of the 1988 Malicious Communications Act and of those proceeded against nearly 10% were given immediate custodial sentences.




    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/i...ears-in-prison



    https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...assessment.pdf
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    Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

    Thanks Milo, I saw Stella Creasy discussing this on the news over the weekend. Very welcome news.

    The Criminal Justice and Courts Bill amends section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988 to make the offence an either-way offence with a maximum penalty on conviction on in the Crown Court of 2 years imprisonment. The offence covers sending a letter, electronic communication or article of any description to another person, which is in nature, or which conveys a message which is, indecent or grossly offensive, or conveys a threat or false information, with the purpose of causing distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom it is intended that its contents should be communicated.
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    • #3
      Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

      What are 'Internet Trolls?

      In the past couple of months in particular there have been many occasions when ‘new posters’ join the forum when a particular ‘thread’ (or subject is posted)...this is very evident when queries are raised on the following subjects:

      Paying the local authority/magistrate court direct in order to avoid bailiff fees.

      The charging of bailiff fees when enforcing a Magistrate Court Fine

      Displaying a ‘NOROIRA’ (Removal of Implied Right of Access)

      Very quickly the new ‘user’ will post inflammatory comments and this almost always lead to the thread being disrupted and becoming ‘locked’ and posters being ‘banned’.


      How to identify an ‘internet troll’


      http://www.peorian.com/technology/te...internet-troll


      Most importantly, internet "trolls" are cowards and bullies and many like to work 'in a pack'. This is seen on forums when more than one poster joins signs up in order to disrupt a thread.

      They tend to single out an individual and will go to extreme lengths to hide their own identity whilst ensuring that the identity of their 'victim' or victim's is made public at each and every opportunity.

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      • #4
        Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

        Good article actually there

        Administrators tend to block and remove anyone who engages in trollish behavior.

        The troll doesn't care. Trolls don't follow the rules or terms of service. They jump from one platform and one conversation thread to another, causing as much damage as possible. If they get kicked off a site, they'll try to return, using a different username or a different computer.
        Trolls are easy to recognize by their mode of operation. They will never compliment you for a smart statement, or admit that your question is difficult to respond to, or tone down the rhetoric with a smiley emoticon.

        Trolls accuse and insult. Trolls needle you relentlessly. They love to flame others. They enjoy causing grief, making another person feel bad. Trolls will quickly move from serious discussion about an issue to a sustained personal assault.

        The goal of a troll is to disrupt an online discussion, picking on one person, or on everyone who expresses a particular point of view. Trolls will also invade a presentation on a live videoconferencing channel or an audio podcast where people can phone in and ask the presenter questions.
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        • #5
          Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

          Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
          Thanks Milo, I saw Stella Creasy discussing this on the news over the weekend. Very welcome news.
          Thank you. Very welcome news indeed. There is another document from the Ministry of Justice that has been released which I will post in a few moments.

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          • #6
            Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

            Indeed it is - an excellent post. I have my local police force investigating this exact issue at present with more than one person. The days of hiding behind anonymous posts are hopefully over.

            Two other things worth mentioning which have not been mentioned are that the offence for Malicious Communications is the posting of the communication. The communication does NOT have to be read or even seen by the intended recipient.

            Secondly, it is often easier to prove harassment than Malicious Communications, so that should be kept in mind as well. For all the aforementioned it is vitally important to have a strong evidence trail and to involve the police at the earliest opportunity after making the website admin aware of it and them not doing anything. Harassment is also far easier to prove than defamation.

            It is extremely welcome news.
            Last edited by Wombats; 21st October 2014, 13:12:PM.

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            • #7
              Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

              Originally posted by Milo View Post
              Thank you. Very welcome news indeed. There is another document from the Ministry of Justice that has been released which I will post in a few moments.
              The following is a Fact Sheet that was also released today by the Ministry of Justice:

              https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...unications.pdf

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              • #8
                Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                I've seen much of this behaviour on some of the forums and pages I am on recently ... and also unfounded accusations of 'trolling' where no such thing is happening (quite a lot of it where the poster is actively disputing what the page/site owner is saying and gets banned for not 'towing the line').
                Hopefully the new guidelines will make it clearer and help people to understand where the boundaries are
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                • #9
                  Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                  Originally posted by Milo View Post
                  The following is a Fact Sheet that was also released today by the Ministry of Justice:

                  https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...unications.pdf
                  Criminal Justice and Courts Bill
                  Fact sheet: amendments to section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988
                  Introduction and current position
                  1.
                  At Committee Stage in the Commons, the Government accepted an amendment by Angie Bray MP. This new clause makes the offence in section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988 a triable either way offence, and increases the maximum penalty to two years’ imprisonment.
                  2.
                  The offence in section 1 of the Malicious Communication Act 1988 of sending certain items with intent to cause distress or anxiety is currently summary only offence which means that it can only be dealt with in the Magistrates' Court. The Magistrates’ Courts have lower penalties available to them - the maximum custodial sentence for an offence under section 1 of the 1988 Act is six months imprisonment; as a summary only offence prosecutions must be brought within six months.
                  What are the proposed changes?
                  3.
                  This clause amends section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1988 to make the offence under this section triable either way. This would mean that a case under section 1 could be dealt with in either the Magistrates Court or the Crown Court. It also provides for an increased maximum penalty on conviction of the offence when tried on indictment of up to two years’ imprisonment, or an unlimited fine, or both. In addition, either-way offences are not subject to the 6 month prosecution time limit which applies to summary only offences.
                  4.
                  The changes would allow more time for prosecutions to be brought, responding to representations made to Ministers that the six-month time limit which currently applies to this offence hampers police investigations into internet related offences that might be charged under section 1. The higher maximum penalty would also help to ensure that the penalty
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                  • #10
                    Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                    This also comes into this general area. It became UK Law on January 1st 2014. This is purely a summary:

                    http://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2...on-complaints/

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                    • #11
                      Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                      Originally posted by Wombats View Post
                      This also comes into this general area. It became UK Law on January 1st 2014. This is purely a summary:

                      http://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2...on-complaints/
                      The link refers to brand new legislation called the Defamation (Operators of Websites) Regulations 2013 (link below).

                      Under this brand new act, a complaint must be made to the website owner and they in turn must contact the 'posters' to advise them of the complaint and to seek their contact name and details. If the 'poster' fails to respond or refuses to provide his contact information, the website owner is obliged to remove the offending material. There are very strict time limits imposed.

                      If the website owner refuses to pass on the complaint to the 'poster' or to do anything then that person (or company) becomes liable and most importantly....they lose the protection under the Defamation (Operators of Websites) Regulations 2013

                      The following link is to an excellent article about this new regulation:


                      http://www.wrighthassall.co.uk/legal-articles/2014/03/03/defamation-operators-websites-regulations-2013/

                      PS: Internet 'trolls' will go to the most extreme measures to ensure that their identity is kept a secret. This new regulation goes a long way to stopping 'trolling' as it provides that the website owner must contact the poster for their name, address and email details and more so, the website operator receiving a Notice of Complaint could now be considered a 'publisher' (of the offending material). This was determined under the case of Tamiz v Google (2013)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                        I'd like to know what happens to those who complain about defamation when none has occurred ... is there provision for that in the new regulations??
                        Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                        It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

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                        • #13
                          Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                          Originally posted by Kati View Post
                          I'd like to know what happens to those who complain about defamation when none has occurred ... is there provision for that in the new regulations??
                          I think the idea is to protect website owners, such as the owners of LB, CAG, MSE etc... from comments made when they simply cannot read every comment.

                          If they feel it is not defamatory, they can do nothing, but they do then lose the protection provided by this Act, and run the risk of prosecution themselves.

                          Any case of defamation would have to be proven. It is a very fine balance between the right to free speech and defamation or harassment. I've read two brilliant articles recently:

                          http://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2014/10...et/#more-24510

                          and this one:

                          https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ta...8c7cce20f8469e

                          Both merit reading in full.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                            Originally posted by Kati View Post
                            I'd like to know what happens to those who complain about defamation when none has occurred ... is there provision for that in the new regulations??
                            Kati. Excellent question. The Ministry of Justice have introduced a Fact Sheet which is pretty detailed which should address your query ( I have not as yet had time to read this...but will certainly be doing so later this evening !!!).

                            https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...n-guidance.pdf

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                            • #15
                              Re: Internet 'trolls'...what are the government plans?

                              Scary reading.........

                              This is why the internet and social media sites are a double edged sword.

                              On a lighter note, I like to think of trolls as cute wee figures with funky hair. Oops, am I showing my age again?

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