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  • Lloyds accused of short-changing PPI claimants

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    Lloyds Banking Group has been cutting the compensation it pays to payment protection insurance (PPI) claimants, a BBC investigation has revealed.

    PPI expert Cliff D'Arcy told the BBC Lloyds had saved more than £60m over the past year by cutting compensation.

    Lloyds refused to be interviewed on the issue. It was offering the correct level of compensation in line with regulatory guidance, a statement said.

    Lloyds cites a little-known regulatory provision called "alternative redress".

    Alternative redress allows a bank, in specified circumstances, to assume that customers to whom it wrongly sold single-premium PPI policies would have bought a cheaper, regular premium PPI policy instead.

    In such cases, a bank is entitled to deduct the cost of the regular premium policy from the full compensation they would otherwise have had to pay.

    For claimants, this deduction can make a large difference to the compensation Lloyds offers.

    Mr D'Arcy, who previously worked at HBOS's PPI operation, told BBC Radio 4: "Frankly I'm amazed that this problem has existed throughout the last year and hasn't emerged into the light."
    'Unjustifiable'

    Care worker Veronica Rayner had two loans from Halifax, now part of Lloyds Banking Group.

    Mrs Rayner told the BBC that when she had taken out her loans she had been unaware that the bank had sold her PPI policies as well.

    Her £2,300 compensation offer from Lloyds was set out in a seven-page letter with an additional two-page appendix of calculations.

    Mrs Rayner said she hadn't realised from the offer letter that the bank had applied alternative redress to her claim.

    But after her claim was referred to the ombudsman, Lloyds was told to pay her an additional £1,200 of compensation - over 50% more than it had originally offered.

    "I don't think it's very fair. I think they should just offer people the right amounts and get it done. It's cheating people in a way," Mrs Rayner said.

    Lloyds told the BBC 11% of offers it made in the fourth quarter of 2013 were made by applying alternative redress.

    But analysis of a large survey of PPI offers undertaken by the PFCA, a trade body representing claims management companies, reveals that Lloyds has used alternative redress since February of last year - and that in some months more than 25% of offers were made in this way.

    Lloyds would not reveal figures for the total number of alternative redress offers made earlier in the year.

    'Customers short-changed'

    But analysis of a large survey of PPI offers undertaken by the PFCA, a trade body representing claims management companies, reveals that Lloyds has used alternative redress since February of last year - in some months reducing PPI offers by more than 25%.

    Mr D'Arcy told the BBC such widespread use of alternative redress was unjustifiable. He said such reductions could legitimately be applied in fewer than 1% of PPI cases.

    "A taxpayer sponsored bank is depriving taxpayers of their rightful compensation by using a loophole. It's a scandal coming out of a scandal," he said.

    Claims management companies have told the BBC they have routinely been challenging alternative redress offers from Lloyds by referring them to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

    Martin Baker, of Swindon-based company Renaissance Easy Claim, said the ombudsman had so far ruled on more than 100 of his clients' cases.

    "In every single case our challenge has been upheld, and clients will now be entitled to full redress," Mr Baker told the BBC.

    Mr D'Arcy is unsurprised that so many offers are being overturned by the ombudsman.

    But he warned that, since nine out of 10 PPI compensation offers were not referred to the ombudsman, most of Lloyds' alternative redress offers were likely to go uncontested.

    As a result, Mr D'Arcy told the BBC, "Lloyds is making substantial savings of millions of pounds a month, and customers are being short-changed".

    In a statement Lloyds said: "The compensation that we pay to customers is determined on an individual basis and is in line with regulatory guidance.

    "The overturn rates for cases relating to comparative redress are in line with other PPI cases. These cases will continue to be reviewed on an individual basis."
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    Re: Lloyds accused of short-changing PPI claimants

    On BBC Radio 4 this evening - PPI: Britain's Biggest Banking Scandal

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03yqp8d

    In February, Lloyds Banking Group set aside a further £1.8bn to compensate its customers who were mis-sold Payment Protection Insurance. It's the sixth time in less than three years the bank has had to revise upwards the level of compensation due and brings the bill so far for Lloyds alone to £9.8bn. Across Britain's banks as a whole, compensation costs have now reached more than £22bn - a sum so large, some economists ironically even credit these payments with having helped boost the economic recovery. How did Britain's biggest ever mis-selling scandal happen and why did it lead to claims management companies being able to rake in billions of pounds from the disaster?

    With testimony from insiders, Michael Robinson tells the unbelievable story of PPI. How in their greed to make more and more profit from selling the protection, the banks demanded ever bigger commission payments from providers of cover while ensuring it was less and less likely a claim would ever succeed.

    The programme hears how industry whistleblowers were repeatedly ignored and asks why the regulators failed to act sooner. And it shows how the banks' reluctance to acknowledge what they'd done opened up the floodgates to complaints and spawned a whole new breed of claims management companies making vast profits from customers who had already fallen victim to bankers' greed.
    While the banks now insist they've learned the lesson of the PPI disaster, Michael Robinson asks if they have really changed their ways.

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    • #3
      Re: Lloyds accused of short-changing PPI claimants

      Would not supprise me if the other banks haven't done this as well.
      Scandalous.
      Never give up, Never surrender.

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      • #4
        Re: Lloyds accused of short-changing PPI claimants

        Claims management companies have told the BBC they have routinely been challenging alternative redress offers from Lloyds by referring them to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

        Jeez

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        • #5
          Re: Lloyds accused of short-changing PPI claimants

          This is the data that the Professional Financial Claims Association gave to BBC based on the analysis of 70,755 PPI redress offers.

          PFCA article http://www.pfca.org.uk/news/2014/mar...continues.html





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          • #6
            Re: Lloyds accused of short-changing PPI claimants

            The reason for a lot of cases last year was that Lloyds actually had a calculator and the numbers of cases that they actually dealt with under AR was according to one report to the BBC 5% of the total claims that they received.

            Areas where alternative redress were given were as follows: Where a claimant has a history of paying off loans early, where a claimant was likely to pay off early ie in the area of buying a new car, people who consolidated loan on loan. There was a pretty wide spectrum.
            However, that was on the basis that the bank was 100% certain that the PPI was sold correctly yet because of the issue of front loaded PPI is was deemed inappropriate for the person's needs, ie that they would receive the alternative redress approach.
            I might add that a lot of AR cases going to the Ombudsman have not been fully and completely tested because of the length of time that the FOS is taking in dealing with cases. A trend may emerge soon of whether AR cases are being either upheld or being overturned.


            I would also add that this is data from CMC's so I would kinda expect it to be quite high considering the way that they get their cases.....
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