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  • An Oscar for Wonga?

    From yesterday's Financial Times:


    Wonga payday loan group releases film to improve its image

    Wonga is predatory. The payday loan company feeds off Britain’s soft underbelly – people mired in poverty, refused credit by banks and desperate for quick cash fixes, according to many, most notably the Archbishop of Canterbury, who pledged earlier this year to drive it “out of business” by helping its non-profit rivals.

    But the company has had enough and is now on a charm offensive. Its weapon? A film called 12 Portraits, which premieres in London on Monday.


    The production, by Bafta-nominated director Gary Tarn, shows the lives of 12 Wonga customers. It was commissioned by the company for an undisclosed fee, yet Mr Tarn says he was given a completely free brief and sees the film as a “reflection of modern Britain and Wonga’s place in it, as opposed to a documentary on Wonga the company”.


    While a PR stunt involving an arthouse film may not seem the most obvious choice for a company that charges annual percentage rates of interest up to 5,853 per cent, business in general has proved a popular subject for television and cinema viewers. Alex Gibney’s documentary on Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room was nominated for an Oscar while David Fincher’s The Social Network, which dramatised the launch of Facebook, won three.


    Wonga hopes its film will show that its customers are typically young, solvent and happy with its service. Rather than use the service as a last resort, Wonga claims that its users are choosing the service over a credit card or unauthorised overdraft because they appreciate its speed and online access.

    “There’s been a high-profile and, in many cases, helpful debate this year about our business and how to meet the mainstream need for short-term credit in the digital age,” said a Wonga spokesperson.
    “The one voice that doesn’t get heard in the debate, however, is that of the people who actually choose to use Wonga’s services. This was the inspiration for 12 Portraits – to challenge the uninformed stereotype of our customers, using their own words.”

    Mark Borkowski, a public relations agent who specialises in publicity stunts, is dubious. “Doing something risky and transparent is a tactic. But where it goes wrong is if it falls prey to collective hubris.”
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    Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

    Rather than use the service as a last resort, Wonga claims that its users are choosing the service over a credit card or unauthorised overdraft because they appreciate its speed and online access.

    Bullshit, what they mean is the Crdit Card is maxed as is the authorised overdraft lol

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    • #3
      Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

      Our society is moving beyond parody

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      • #4
        Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

        Originally posted by MissFM View Post
        Our society is moving beyond parody
        So true.

        Has it not occurred to Wonga that if they genuinely want to improve their image they need to stop thinking out of the box and consider more effective strategies such as improving their behavior?

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        • #5
          Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

          As much as a I dislike Wonga and their business I must say that they have had a bad press many features on the TV deploring them but still people most of whom would have read or seen the stories they still come back,Until there are regulations and maybe laws in place to limit their activities or their charges they will still go from strength to strength making their rich owners/shareholders richer.
          When the subject of payday ;enders comes up whose name comes first YES Wonga trouble is and quite rightly in a free society ,like ours LOL we have a choice not mine to use these lenders but hundreds of thousand or millions do.
          You don't target Wonga you target the system that permits them

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            Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

            Originally posted by wales01man View Post
            As much as a I dislike Wonga and their business I must say that they have had a bad press many features on the TV deploring them but still people most of whom would have read or seen the stories they still come back,Until there are regulations and maybe laws in place to limit their activities or their charges they will still go from strength to strength making their rich owners/shareholders richer.
            When the subject of payday ;enders comes up whose name comes first YES Wonga trouble is and quite rightly in a free society ,like ours LOL we have a choice not mine to use these lenders but hundreds of thousand or millions do.
            You don't target Wonga you target the system that permits them
            Whilst I agree with your last sentence, Wales, there are many (as said above) who do not have that choice. Wonga and its ilk is the new, legal version of a loan shark and its activities are both predatory and immoral. Yes, target the system that permits them - but target them also.

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              Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

              Originally posted by wales01man View Post
              Until there are regulations and maybe laws in place to limit their activities or their charges .............
              You don't target Wonga you target the system that permits them

              http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...-December-2013

              Rules and guidance for payday loan companies

              Key problem areas

              We have seen evidence of a range of problem areas among payday lenders (payday loans are one of the products that we call ‘high-risk short-term loans’). For example:
              • some firms do not properly assess whether a consumer can afford to pay back a loan before lending to them
              • some use continuous payment authorities to take money from customers when they can’t afford it
              • some rollover loans repeatedly without taking into account the customer’s individual circumstances

              We are proposing rules for payday lenders that we believe will change these firms’ behaviour and achieve better outcomes for consumers.
              Clear and fair advertising

              We propose that all advertisements (which we call ‘financial promotions’) for payday loans must come with a clear risk warning, highlighting the potential risks of taking out a loan to consumers. This should include information about where to find free debt advice.
              This warning could help those consumers who are not aware of the costs of not paying back a loan on time.
              Rolling over a loan

              When customers do not pay off their loans it is common for payday lenders to roll them over to the following month. This is a simple process that can be useful to customers, as it means they won’t default on the loan, or incur additional charges and their credit score won’t be affected.
              However, if lenders use it too much, it can mean that the cost of interest on the loan accumulates. Sometimes charges can be higher than the original loan. Also a number of rollovers may indicate that a customer is in financial difficulty, rather than experiencing a temporary change in circumstances.
              To protect consumers, we propose to limit the number of times a firm can rollover a loan to two. For consumers in this position, lenders will also have to give them information about where they can find free debt advice.
              Using continuous payment authorities

              A continuous payment authority allows a firm to take a series of payments from a customer’s bank account without the customer having to authorise it every time.
              These are often used to collect renewal payments for things like car breakdown services, insurance policies, gym memberships, mobile and broadband services or magazine subscriptions. For payday lending, these authorities are used to collect payment usually on the customer’s next payday.
              However, typical problems with these include firms trying to take payments unexpectedly, or repeatedly trying to take payments when the customer has already explained that they don’t have the money. This gives the firm a level of control over the customer’s bank account.
              We propose to limit the number of times a payday lender can seek a payment using a continuous payment authority to two. We believe that this allows customers some flexibility, while giving them more control to manage their way out of financial difficulty.
              See our website for more information on cancelling continuous payment authorities.
              Implementing a ‘price cap’ on the cost of credit

              We considered whether it would be appropriate to introduce a limit on how much interest firms can charge on a loan – so how much it costs a customer to have credit. However, at this stage we don’t believe we have enough evidence or information to fully understand the implications of doing this.
              When we start to regulate consumer credit firms next April, we will be able to collect more data from them and we will carry out more research into the effectiveness of price capping.
              Have your say

              For full details of our payday lending proposals, please see Chapter 6 of our full paper. In particular we’d like your feedback on the following questions:
              Q10: Do you have any comments on limiting rollover to two attempts?
              Q12: Do you have any comments on our proposal to introduce a limit of two unsuccessful attempts on the use of CPAs to pay off a loan?
              Q14: Do you have any comments on our risk warning?
              Q16: Do you have any comments on the effectiveness of price capping?
              #staysafestayhome

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              • #8
                Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                PlanB one word comes to mind LEGAL that's what they are doing as for choice everyone has a choice to use or not to use them or others.
                We are ripped off by supermarkets ETC but they are within the law what im trying to get over is fight the system change the laws

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                • #9
                  Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                  Originally posted by wales01man View Post
                  PlanB one word comes to mind LEGAL that's what they are doing as for choice everyone has a choice to use or not to use them or others.
                  We are ripped off by supermarkets ETC but they are within the law what im trying to get over is fight the system change the laws
                  Huh hmmm(discreet cough) I think you'll find it was me, not PlanB, that has got your goat Wales:tinysmile_aha_t:

                  And I stand by what I said! x

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                  • #10
                    Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                    Sorry for saying wrong person ,Its not as you say got my goat I just feel that if it legal it needs changing that's the fight that's needed.
                    the one thing I support more than anything is choice we all choose and have to make our own decisions and then stand or fall by them I know I have

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                    • #11
                      Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                      Originally posted by wales01man View Post
                      PlanB one word comes to mind LEGAL that's what they are doing as for choice everyone has a choice to use or not to use them or others.

                      The entire industry has been referred to the Competition Commission for it to consider ''deep-rooted problems'' identified by the OFT that include ''Variable levels of compliance with relevant laws and guidance'' and ''Practices that make it difficult for consumers to identify or compare the full cost of payday loans, undermining competition over price for loans''

                      http://www.oft.gov.uk/news-and-updat...3#.UnVePxVFDU8

                      So it doesn't sound like the words 'legal' and 'choice' have sprung too readily to the OFT's mind.

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                      • #12
                        Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                        The OFT is as useless as all the other so called regulators think we all agree on that

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                        • #13
                          Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                          Originally posted by wales01man View Post
                          The OFT is as useless as all the other so called regulators think we all agree on that
                          What we think of them is irrelevant. As a competition authority it is what they think of an industry that ultimately defines one.

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                          • #14
                            Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                            A boss of Wonga defends its practices as MPs prepare to grill three payday loan companies in a crackdown on the lending sector.



                            The chief operating officer of payday loan company Wonga has defended its practices as it released a film telling the stories of 12 of its customers.

                            Niall Wass told Sky News that Wonga decided to make 12 Portraits to dispel the "negative" image of the company, as MPs prepare to grill three payday loan companies as part of a crackdown on the short-term lending sector.
                            The film was made by an independent director who picked 12 customers from the company database and followed their decision to take a loan from Wonga.
                            He said: "We felt the need to release it because we felt that the voice of the customer, really the silent majority of people using our service, was not being heard.
                            "Generally you hear a lot of criticism about our service out in the media and actually the super positive stories that we see every day from our customer feedback are not being heard, so we wanted to redress that balance and allow their voice to come out.
                            "We didn't think it was fair the characterisation of some of our customers, so we want people to reconsider, judge for themselves have a look at our site have a look at those videos and see what you think."
                            Representatives from Wonga, QuickQuid and Mr Lender - three of the largest payday lending firms - will appear before the Business, Innovation and Skills Select Committee on Tuesday.
                            MPs are expected to follow up on a damning report by the Office of Fair Trading(OFT) that found "deep-rooted" problems in the way payday loans attract and treat customers.
                            Lenders have come under intense scrutiny from the Competition Commission and the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) since the report was published in September.
                            New curbs proposed by the FCA in October will force lenders to place "risk warnings" on promotions and advertising, urging customers to "think" before taking out a payday loan.
                            Representatives from Which? and the Citizens Advice Bureau will also address the committee.



                            http://news.sky.com/story/1164035/wonga-chief-defends-company-practices

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                            • #15
                              Re: An Oscar for Wonga?

                              Originally posted by enaid View Post
                              A boss of Wonga defends its practices as MPs prepare to grill three payday loan companies in a crackdown on the lending sector.



                              The chief operating officer of payday loan company Wonga has defended its practices as it released a film telling the stories of 12 of its customers.

                              Niall Wass told Sky News that Wonga decided to make 12 Portraits to dispel the "negative" image of the company, as MPs prepare to grill three payday loan companies as part of a crackdown on the short-term lending sector.
                              The film was made by an independent director who picked 12 customers from the company database and followed their decision to take a loan from Wonga.
                              He said: "We felt the need to release it because we felt that the voice of the customer, really the silent majority of people using our service, was not being heard.
                              "Generally you hear a lot of criticism about our service out in the media and actually the super positive stories that we see every day from our customer feedback are not being heard, so we wanted to redress that balance and allow their voice to come out.
                              "We didn't think it was fair the characterisation of some of our customers, so we want people to reconsider, judge for themselves have a look at our site have a look at those videos and see what you think."
                              Representatives from Wonga, QuickQuid and Mr Lender - three of the largest payday lending firms - will appear before the Business, Innovation and Skills Select Committee on Tuesday.
                              MPs are expected to follow up on a damning report by the Office of Fair Trading(OFT) that found "deep-rooted" problems in the way payday loans attract and treat customers.
                              Lenders have come under intense scrutiny from the Competition Commission and the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) since the report was published in September.
                              New curbs proposed by the FCA in October will force lenders to place "risk warnings" on promotions and advertising, urging customers to "think" before taking out a payday loan.
                              Representatives from Which? and the Citizens Advice Bureau will also address the committee.



                              http://news.sky.com/story/1164035/wonga-chief-defends-company-practices
                              You can watch this live. It starts at 9.15 this morning http://www.parliamentlive.tv/main/Pl...eetingId=14115

                              Martin Lewis is appearing so should be fun.

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