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  • Mobile Co breached contract but wont let me leave - HELP need advice

    HELP!!! – IS THIS UK MOBILE OPERATOR’S BAD BEHAVIOUR LEGAL ?????

    PLEASE HELP!!!!! – Contract / Consumer Law Issue – with mobile provider

    Ok so here’s the deal, I’ll try to keep it brief.

    BACKGROUND SUMMARY – TO INTERNAL ID THEFT & FRAUD

    2 year contract with UK mobile phone provider (ends June 2012)
    Sept 2011 - Personal data held soley by the mobile provider used to commit ID Theft
    and ID Fraud (long story but v.v.strong probability it is internal staff)
    (someone used my bank account details, full name, phone number and date of birth to
    add extra £50 per month of services to my existing £35 per month contract package. I
    was alerted by txt and had them cancelled before any damage. Next day my personal
    details used to create a new online account and again add extra £50 per month of
    additional services)
    Sept – Oct 2011 - Spent long days and nights trying to get answers from mobile
    provider, but sent in circles.
    Reported it to police (cant say too much as ongoing) who told me to terminate the
    contract due to repudiatory (fundamental) breach on part of Mobile Provider.
    Oct 2011 – Sent Mobile Provider written (letters & emails) termination of the contract
    due to repudiatory breach (fundamental breach) personal data security breach.
    Demanding account be closed at zero balance and that no early termination fees be
    sought as well as sending me my PAC so I can bring to a different mobile provider.
    All letters sent by recorded delivery and all received. However no acknowledgement
    of or response to them.
    Haven’t used the account since terminating the account. No calls, no txts, not internet
    NOTHING!!
    Nov 2011 – the account billing date has arrived and they have billed me for the
    month.


    TODAY’S EMAIL – SENT BY ME

    Today I sent email asking why is a terminated account still be billed? Why is account
    still active if contract/agreement terminated? Why no response to earlier
    emails/letters?


    RESPONSE FROM MOBILE OPERATOR – TODAY - ALL THEY WANT IS £££
    Response I got by email today

    Thanks for contacting us about the possible data leak. I understand that you have
    requested to close the line and I am sorry that it has taken so long to get back in touch
    with you.
    As this is a serious accusation, this matter has been passed to our fraud team to
    investigate the matter thoroughly. This does take some time to arrange. However,
    please rest assured the matter is currently being looked into.
    Until their investigations are complete, if you still want to close the line, the early
    termination fee will still be applied. At the moment this is £160. This fee goes down
    the closer you are to the end of the contact.
    Also, you will still continue to be billed until our investigations are completed.
    We will try to see if there has been any strange activity on your account. I will be in
    touch as soon as this is assessed.


    SO BASED ON THE INFO ABOVE – HELLLLLP WHAT DO I DO NEXT??
    Bypass every thing and issue a before action letter? And lets go court ?
    If I pay Nov 2011 bill – will I be reaffirming the contract – reversing my termination?
    What can they do to my credit file - default; dispute ?
    Where do I stand ?
    And what should be my next move be?
    They have clearly shown they do not acknowledge the contract is terminated

    Im soley focusing on the breach of contract at the moment – the whole dpa breach is
    for much later.

    Pleeeeeeeeze helllllllllp Thanks for taking time to read – tried to keep it brief
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  • #2
    Re: Mobile Co breached contract but wont let me leave - HELP need advice

    Originally posted by angieBee View Post
    HELP!!! – IS THIS UK MOBILE OPERATOR’S BAD BEHAVIOUR LEGAL ?????

    PLEASE HELP!!!!! – Contract / Consumer Law Issue – with mobile provider

    Ok so here’s the deal, I’ll try to keep it brief.

    BACKGROUND SUMMARY – TO INTERNAL ID THEFT & FRAUD

    2 year contract with UK mobile phone provider (ends June 2012)
    Sept 2011 - Personal data held soley by the mobile provider used to commit ID Theft
    and ID Fraud (long story but v.v.strong probability it is internal staff)
    (someone used my bank account details, full name, phone number and date of birth to
    add extra £50 per month of services to my existing £35 per month contract package. I
    was alerted by txt and had them cancelled before any damage. Next day my personal
    details used to create a new online account and again add extra £50 per month of
    additional services)
    Sept – Oct 2011 - Spent long days and nights trying to get answers from mobile
    provider, but sent in circles.
    Reported it to police (cant say too much as ongoing) who told me to terminate the
    contract due to repudiatory (fundamental) breach on part of Mobile Provider.
    Oct 2011 – Sent Mobile Provider written (letters & emails) termination of the contract
    due to repudiatory breach (fundamental breach) personal data security breach.
    Demanding account be closed at zero balance and that no early termination fees be
    sought as well as sending me my PAC so I can bring to a different mobile provider.
    All letters sent by recorded delivery and all received. However no acknowledgement
    of or response to them.
    Haven’t used the account since terminating the account. No calls, no txts, not internet
    NOTHING!!
    Nov 2011 – the account billing date has arrived and they have billed me for the
    month.


    TODAY’S EMAIL – SENT BY ME

    Today I sent email asking why is a terminated account still be billed? Why is account
    still active if contract/agreement terminated? Why no response to earlier
    emails/letters?


    RESPONSE FROM MOBILE OPERATOR – TODAY - ALL THEY WANT IS £££
    Response I got by email today

    Thanks for contacting us about the possible data leak. I understand that you have
    requested to close the line and I am sorry that it has taken so long to get back in touch
    with you.
    As this is a serious accusation, this matter has been passed to our fraud team to
    investigate the matter thoroughly. This does take some time to arrange. However,
    please rest assured the matter is currently being looked into.
    Until their investigations are complete, if you still want to close the line, the early
    termination fee will still be applied. At the moment this is £160. This fee goes down
    the closer you are to the end of the contact.
    Also, you will still continue to be billed until our investigations are completed.
    We will try to see if there has been any strange activity on your account. I will be in
    touch as soon as this is assessed.


    SO BASED ON THE INFO ABOVE – HELLLLLP WHAT DO I DO NEXT??
    Bypass every thing and issue a before action letter? And lets go court ?
    If I pay Nov 2011 bill – will I be reaffirming the contract – reversing my termination?
    What can they do to my credit file - default; dispute ?
    Where do I stand ?
    And what should be my next move be?
    They have clearly shown they do not acknowledge the contract is terminated

    Im soley focusing on the breach of contract at the moment – the whole dpa breach is
    for much later.

    Pleeeeeeeeze helllllllllp Thanks for taking time to read – tried to keep it brief
    i had a similar situation with orange, no fraud involved though. eventually put in a court claim which they defended with a load of rubbish. i took it all the way to the hearing and they didnt turn up. The judge was really nice to me but not at all to orange!!! He said they didnt have a case anyway. i would send a letter before action. sounds like you've got lots of evidence to back up your case so i would go through with it.

    good luck!!

    QCK

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    • #3
      Re: Mobile Co breached contract but wont let me leave - HELP need advice

      Tell them the early termination fee will not be applied as it is deemed unlawful Oft V ashbourne management services, and not only that. if they do attempt to enforce such fee or refuse to terminate your account immediately at zero balance you will commence legal proceedings against them for damages as a result of fraud and breach of data protection act 1998.
      Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

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      • #4
        Re: Mobile Co breached contract but wont let me leave - HELP need advice

        http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2011/1237.html
        "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
        (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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        • #5
          Re: Mobile Co breached contract but wont let me leave - HELP need advice

          Yep thats the one, thanks Leclerc
          Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

          By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

          If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

          I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

          The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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          • #6
            Re: Mobile Co breached contract but wont let me leave - HELP need advice

            Hi All, Ohhh its so nice to know that there is help out there, thank you all so much for your advice, much appreciated as you've all taken time out to read and reply.

            I've was able to get a solicitors appointment for Monday. So gonna see what they say.

            Mobile providers are a pain. I'm definitely gonna stick to 30 day contracts.

            Wishing you a good weekend : )

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            • #7
              Re: Mobile Co breached contract but wont let me leave - HELP need advice

              Also see the OFT's page on this case - link - for samples of the con-trick contracts involved.

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