Water Meters

[enaid]

Ok moved in this flat Dec 2013 already had a water meter, we have never had one before in any of our other homes.
You can not have them removed and so I was worried about the cost as the rule of thumb is more folks than bedrooms you are worse off.
Any way I read about the Watersure scheme and applied and have been on that since Feb 2014. It is a cap on the cost that even if you use more on the meter you will not pay more than the annual charge when no meter in the property.
Well we been paying the normal charge by DD for 2 years, never had a bill with meter readings on and I really should have been in touch about this sooner but it slipped my mind.
So going online and checking all the bills, no meter readings recorded anywhere and the cahp has read the meter every six month.
So my question after all that prattling lol

6/3/14 meter read 413 today it is 515 so we have used 136 whatever lol and just wondered if anyone knew the approx cost of this and if there are add ons to the bill besides the meter stuff like standing charges etc .
Thanks as always Enaid x

[des8]

Re: Water Meters

I suspect your meter records cubic meters of water used (some I believe record in Litres).
You will be charged according to their tariff, plus a standing charge plus sewerage (if they are responsible for that)

Their charges should be available to view on line

[enaid]

Re: Water Meters

I suspect your meter records cubic meters of water used (some I believe record in Litres).
You will be charged according to their tariff, plus a standing charge plus sewerage (if they are responsible for that)

Their charges should be available to view on line

Yep but I cant understand it and need me facts before I go for the jugular

2. Measured charges

Water		Sewerage
Standing charge	Volumetric charge per m3	Standing charge	Fixed charge (surface water drainage & highway drainage)	Volumetric charge per m3
£34.79	£1.750	£7.04	£91.20	£1.182

Assumes a 15mm meter has been fitted.
If premises only receive a water service the standing charge will be £36.34.
If premises are not connected to the public sewer system for surface water drainage, either directly or indirectly, the sewerage fixed charge is £37.24. Our surface water drainage section explains more.

[des8]

Re: Water Meters

So you have two standing charges
Plus fixed charge for surface water drainage
Plus two Volumetric charges: one for supplying water, the other for removing it!

So I calculate as follows:
Cost136 m3 x 1.750)+(136 m3 x 1.182) = £398.75
TOTAL COST: £34.79 +7.04 + 91.20 +398.75 = £531.78

E&OE

[enaid]

Re: Water Meters

So you have two standing charges
Plus fixed charge for surface water drainage
Plus two Volumetric charges: one for supplying water, the other for removing it!

So I calculate as follows:
Cost136 m3 x 1.750)+(136 m3 x 1.182) = £398.75
TOTAL COST: £34.79 +7.04 + 91.20 +398.75 = £531.78

E&OE

Yes but that is for 2 years Des when in fact I have paid over £800 and so far have had no rebate, I just trying to work out if I better on meter or Watersure looking like meter. Thanks xx

[des8]

Re: Water Meters

Sorry... you'll have to double up the standing charges (unless they have increased in the past two years), but perhaps reduce the meterage charges if the price has altered in the past couple of years!

[enaid]

Re: Water Meters

okidoki, still not the £830 I have paid so in the red and ready for em, thanks Des xx

[wales01man]

Re: Water Meters

phone them up and ask if you give the meter readings they should give you a total you owe for the peirod

[Turboman]

Re: Water Meters

A few more figures for you

in 2014/15

Unite charge:

£34.79 Standing Water
£1.750 Metered Water
£7.04 Standing Sewerage
£91.20 Standard Drainage
£1.182 Metered Sewerage Charge

In here:

http://www.unitedutilities.com/our-c...2015-2016.aspx

It says average costs for Watersure Charges would be:

4. WaterSure – a charge for vulnerable groups
If you are eligible for this charge it is based on the average household charge.

	Water	Sewerage	Total
Average household charge	£199.41	£210.93	£410.34

If premises are not connected to the public sewer system for surface water drainage, either directly or indirectly, the sewerage charge for each type of premises will be reduced to £157.01.

• Discount for direct debit payers – If you pay by direct debit an annual discount of £5.00 will be made to your account
• Owners' allowance - An annual allowance of 3.5% is available to owners of premises who, by agreement with us, undertake to pay unmetered charges for one or more tenanted household properties. To qualify for the allowance, payment must be made as stated on your account
• Other water companies charges - Charges will be different if you live near to the borders of our area and receive water supply or sewerage services from another company
• Enquiries over basis of charge – If you are moving into a household property within our area you can obtain details of our charges for that property by telephoning 0345 672 2888

The basic Standard Fixed Charges are high compared with Yorkshire Water (I know no help to you--but just an observation)

[enaid]

Re: Water Meters

phone them up and ask if you give the meter readings they should give you a total you owe for the peirod

Wales I have done that it was my first stop. Thing is I got a not so bright talking to me, he had no idea what he was on about, I now have my meter readings but they have not done a statement using the readings. I will carry on till i get a proper result as to if I should be on meter or watersure deal.