UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSION

[Amethyst]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Yip as your visit to the site and thus contract were before the regs came into force one bit June 13th 2014 and other bit October 2014 we couldn't use them in your case ( which is why they weren't in your WS or Skeleton argument). Pre June 13th the main part is the misrep act and standard contract law (ie no consideration/intention to contract).

( and congrats on both counts xxx)

[aviduser]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Yip as your visit to the site and thus contract were before the regs came into force one bit June 13th 2014 and other bit October 2014 we couldn't use them in your case ( which is why they weren't in your WS or Skeleton argument). Pre June 13th the main part is the misrep act and standard contract law (ie no consideration/intention to contract).

( and congrats on both counts xxx)

Yes that's right, I believe that is what she was saying, that the dates meant it wasn't covered on those points of law, informed consent sounds familiar and she did ask was there a terms and conditions box that RH uses in his defense, at the start of the process.

I said no. I said I filled in the form but left the site when I realised I had made a mistake and his was the NOT the GOV web site.

I wonder if he forgot about my case and didn't file the right paperwork?

Thanks for that lovely GIF file above. What a day!!!

[teaboy2]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Hello all

Well that's right I "won" the claim against me was dismissed.

Admins please feel free to delete some of this if you think it would help RH.

So I attended today RH didn't. The judge asked me a few questions, firstly just explain why I was on the site what I thought I was getting from the site. Essentially the first sections of my Witness statement.

She asked did the website look like the claimant says it did when you applied, I said no.

That was pretty much it.

Then I go out wait 10 minutes and come back in. She then read her verdict.

The bits I could remember and write down.

He had not complied with Part 27 civil procedure rules and that bothered her, she went on that it seemed his entire case seemed very generic.

"She said there was no intention to create legal relations and therefore no valid contract"

I think in the end how the site looked was less important than contract law.


During my "defense" I brought up the section of distance selling that teaboy2 brought up. She said that wasn't relevant as that law was made after June. I didn't quite understand that but.

So it's the contract for SURE just not the exact bit.

Thats all she wrote I am afraid, it was a bit of a blur to be honest, I wasn't prepared very well as my son was born Friday and had a few issues, I literally left court drove to the Hospital and picked him up, brought him home and now I write this.

Happy to answer questions but as I say it was a blur. Thanks

The regulations are here http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2.../contents/made

And yes they came in to force in June 2014. section 14 is the part relevant to the explicit acknowledgement of need to pay (i.e. click pay button). But the regulations themselves merely enforce basic contract law principles of offer (offer withdrawal), consideration, acceptance of offer (declination of offer) and confirmation of acceptance.

So those who are effected where they used RH's site prior to june 2014 will have to rely on those principles, alongside other arguments, where as those that used the site on or after June 2014 can use the regulations. But either-way you can use the regulations to substantiate your claim that you never entered an agreement as no offer (i.e. pay button not clicked) was made on the basis that the regulations support the basic contractual formation requirements for a contract to be formed - though only if it were the case you didn't go through with payment.

[Kati]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Congrats again Avid (on both counts) ... Make sure you now take time & spend it with your family!!

K xx

[Nibbler]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

New victim.

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...sport-services

[Campana14]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

RH keep sending me e mails (about 10 of them in less than a week).

[Amethyst]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Do you want to write to them to tell them to stop ? ( fwd them to me if you like ( admin@legalbeagles.info ) and I'll help you with a letter )

[Campana14]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

I don't know what to do about this. My relative has changed her telephone number and her mobile number.

- - - Updated - - -

She did not get a court order.

[teaboy2]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

court papers would go to her physical address, not her telephone.

So for now nothing to worry about, but if you do receive court papers let us know here straight away.

And email Ame as she suggested so she can help you put a stop to the harassing calls and emails etc.

[Amethyst]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Controversial owner of business that uses legal threats to intimidate people into paying for services they could have obtained for nothing finding county courts disapprove of his tactics | Daily Mail Online

The controversial owner of a business that uses legal threats to intimidate people into paying for services they could have obtained for nothing is finding that British county courts disapprove of his tactics.

Read more at: http://legalbeagles.info/#ixzz3biJhpwLK


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[tyke1601]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

I'll ask him for his views on this latest article tomorrow in Barnsley.

[Amethyst]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

How you getting on ? All prepped?

[Kati]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

I'll ask him for his views on this latest article tomorrow in Barnsley.

Good luck for tomorrow xx

[tyke1601]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Doing great, especially after reading MailOnline today!

[Scammed]

Re: UK Services & Support Ltd BRITISHPassportServices Copycat Website issues DISCUSSI

Very best of luck, let us know how you get on x