Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

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Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

If they used the following account details it was reported to Barclays Fraud Dept on 09-10-14

Sort Code: 20-93-15
Account Number: 13949265

Funds are normally withdrawn by the scammer within a matter of hours, which is why it is important to report it as soon as possible. Have a read around the forum about eBay, Gumtree, Auto Trader scams and you will see in more detail.

[Divyan]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

yes these are the exact account details...however we are late to report it...the police have been visited again today and they said they will get in contact with the fraud squad again...the name of the account paid into was Artur Schulz...the item on sale was a mercedes vito with the registration of VX58 EPA...item number: 140785144711

[righty]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

In an attempt to find out if the bank can be at fault we need evidence of their negligence and the following dates are important

When was the payment made
When was the scam realized
What date AND time was the fraud reported to the victims bank

[ComputerGuru]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

I don't know if it has already been suggested but why not consolidate all the details in this thread into a simple look up database site so people could see if the bank account they are about to pay into has been used for fraud already? Obviously with timing being critical it would be important to update regularly which would be the problem. Ebay and autotrader are keen to prove they are making all efforts so a link on their pages might be possible. If the data was on the LB server then it might provide a service beyond cars as well...just a thought.

[Tools]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

I agree CG, however in some instances we have to keep details back, especially when a scambait is taking place. I do hold a list of accounts already reported, new ones are usually posted here and are found with a simple google search, that is how most people find it. As soon as we get account details they are reported through a network we have set up. As has been demonstrated with Bricko's case (will post more detail when able to) there can on rare occasions be a positive outcome.

[ComputerGuru]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

Of course they will only come to you once they have been scammed. If there was a big "check the bank account here" notice on the original listing then you might prevent more of them becoming victims. Your baiting operations would not be affected as you would not check too hard! Well done for your efforts on this by the way. Good work!

[Divyan]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

So far the bank (Halifax - Rugby branch) have turned around and said it is a police matter since we have a Crime Reference Number, which we received from action fraud.

Payment was made on 1st October 2014
Scam was realised as a fraud on the delivery date on the 4th October 2014
The fraud was reported initially on the 6th October 2014

[Tools]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

Sadly the money will have been withdrawn within a couple of hours of you putting it in Divyan.

CG, most of the accounts we receive are published either here or on Scamwarners.com

[Tools]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

I wonder who could help us with that database CG

[Tools]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

Or something like this?

http://legalbeagles.info/mule-bank-a...used-in-scams/

[ComputerGuru]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

I think you have all those skills, and more importantly the data but if you ever feel the need, we can always help out of course!

[ComputerGuru]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

Well yes...ok...I give in :tinysmile_cry_t:

Still it would be better to get it mentioned in ebay et al actually on the sales page in BIG letters! A link to scamaccounts.co.uk with credits to LB (and a certain hosting company). I think with your cred with them and the police right now you could get that in place. I suspect that would cut the victim rate somewhat?

[Tools]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

You've set Sharon off now lol, she'll be sending more cake if you're not careful

[ComputerGuru]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

We have been considering amending our systems to include support for edible payments but I think the testing process would kill 50% of my staff in the short term and the other 50% would die a long slow and painful death, unable to leave the office due to inadequate door width and/or embarrassment over wardrobe malfunctions! Also, I think the audit trail might be a little unsavoury!

[righty]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

Or something like this?

http://legalbeagles.info/mule-bank-a...used-in-scams/

Excellent tools If that is made public showing that its often Barclays who are involved they & the other banks might decide to actually do something about their scam accounts