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Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scams
The point is Rod that it's largely an obsolete word and though there may be equivalent words in foreign languages, it is obviously a UK/Commonwealth specific term by inclusion of the currency reference 'pound'. Most of my banking life was in international commerce, dealing in some very arcane and obscure commercial documents and certain expressions were peculiar to different parts of the world. A dictionary only gives you the equivalent word in the country mentioned. It doesn't relate to usage of that specific word.
I always assumed that 99% of fraudulent adverts were for under £10,000, being easier to persuade a buyer to be reckless for a mouth watering bargain, and that sum of money being more likely for a target to have available. It is more interesting than the standard form as the scam script must be more complex, though from what is stated at SW, the scammer is confused. I've been collecting scammer scripts and I'll target these.
Anyway - I've been sent another bank account. I'll post up the document I was sent shortly and get the account reported.
I've added the details to the original post with full details and screenprint here
http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...-Step-Auto-2-0
Reported. That's my first double header and now a third one from a different seller/scammer. That's 3 money mule accounts and each of them Barclays Bank. I'll get this one written up tomorrow. It's an ebay variant. It's difficult to argue when I record every mail, link and email address and take screen prints from the original advert and documents they send me.
On Tuesday evening I noticed one dealer hack on Autotrader UK but unusually it was taken care of without me posting anything, and the same evening. There were none of the usual 'singletons' but I could spot the higher value fraudulent adverts which, as Tools says is inevitable. The good thing is that it demonstrates that the scammers can be 'chased' from using their normal tactics which are likely to have greatest success. The only drawback is that he higher value adverts are more difficult to spot and harder to evidence as frauds, though do appear to have distinguishing features.
I've detailed the latest baiting of an Autotrader UK fraudulent ad scammer here
http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...036#post461036
including all his scripts, emails and screen prints of the original advert with links and copies of his spoofed fake ebay pages and, of course, details of the latest 'money mule' account that has been reported to the authorities. So far, three out of three, for Barclays. I'm hoping I will get some from other banks too, but time will tell. If the authorities don't have statistics, I'll do the job for them.
The important thing is for people to realise how easy it is for criminals to 'spoof' up very authentic looking messages. All it takes is the copy and paste button and a bit of editing.
The point is Rod that it's largely an obsolete word and though there may be equivalent words in foreign languages, it is obviously a UK/Commonwealth specific term by inclusion of the currency reference 'pound'. Most of my banking life was in international commerce, dealing in some very arcane and obscure commercial documents and certain expressions were peculiar to different parts of the world. A dictionary only gives you the equivalent word in the country mentioned. It doesn't relate to usage of that specific word.
I always assumed that 99% of fraudulent adverts were for under £10,000, being easier to persuade a buyer to be reckless for a mouth watering bargain, and that sum of money being more likely for a target to have available. It is more interesting than the standard form as the scam script must be more complex, though from what is stated at SW, the scammer is confused. I've been collecting scammer scripts and I'll target these.
Anyway - I've been sent another bank account. I'll post up the document I was sent shortly and get the account reported.
I've added the details to the original post with full details and screenprint here
http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...-Step-Auto-2-0
Reported. That's my first double header and now a third one from a different seller/scammer. That's 3 money mule accounts and each of them Barclays Bank. I'll get this one written up tomorrow. It's an ebay variant. It's difficult to argue when I record every mail, link and email address and take screen prints from the original advert and documents they send me.
On Tuesday evening I noticed one dealer hack on Autotrader UK but unusually it was taken care of without me posting anything, and the same evening. There were none of the usual 'singletons' but I could spot the higher value fraudulent adverts which, as Tools says is inevitable. The good thing is that it demonstrates that the scammers can be 'chased' from using their normal tactics which are likely to have greatest success. The only drawback is that he higher value adverts are more difficult to spot and harder to evidence as frauds, though do appear to have distinguishing features.
I've detailed the latest baiting of an Autotrader UK fraudulent ad scammer here
http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...036#post461036
including all his scripts, emails and screen prints of the original advert with links and copies of his spoofed fake ebay pages and, of course, details of the latest 'money mule' account that has been reported to the authorities. So far, three out of three, for Barclays. I'm hoping I will get some from other banks too, but time will tell. If the authorities don't have statistics, I'll do the job for them.
The important thing is for people to realise how easy it is for criminals to 'spoof' up very authentic looking messages. All it takes is the copy and paste button and a bit of editing.
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