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  • Car purchased not as described / not satisfactory / not fit for purpose

    I purchased a car last July (delivered 4 August) 2020. Foolishly I didn't view it or test drive it prior to inspection. Car was described as stunning and having a full service history.

    Car had obvious faults that were not pointed out prior to sale. Rear Wiper didn't work, AC didn't work and a 10cm crack in the rear bumper.

    Contacted the dealer using WhatsApp 2 days after delivery and asked what they could do to make things right. The dealer told me to expect wear and tear on a 15 year old used car. Bear in mind I paid £2795 for the car and the August 20 Whatxar valuation for an excellent example was £2281 so it was priced at the top end of the market. I didn't know my rights back then and took the dealer's word in good faith so I got the rear wiper rrepaired and had the Aircon serviced soon after.

    2 weeks after the Aircon Service it was blowing hot air again. Took it to another garage who informed me the AC condenser was damaged and 90% of the refrigerant had leaked out.

    Had the AC condenser replaced in mid September.

    Around this time I also noticed that the plastic under engine cover was missing and the front bumper cover was not secured properly along the lower edge. Bought a replacement guard and fixings for the bumper and buttoned it up.

    Posted a negative review on both Google reviews and Autotrader in early September. Dealer responded unprofessionally to the Google Review and used non factual statements in both responses. Dealer didn't invite me to make contact to resolve the issues.

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    Front subframe and rear cross member were covered in surface rust (Liverpool Car) so treated it to a full rust prevention treatment.

    In December I noticed that the two most recent invoices for servicing weren't present. Mot was done on the same day and mileage as the service stamps so contacted the MoT testing stations to obtain duplicate invoices. Services stamps were dated in 2018 and 2109 so quite recent, worth a shot. Sent a photo of the service stamps o the Most testing stations. Both denied in writing that it was their stamp. One sent.me a photo of his stamp as proof plus a copy of the invoice for the 2018 MoT and work on brakes required to make it pass. The stamps I have in my book have no garage details on them and can purchased online for £14.99 which is worrying.

    over the next few weeks I contacted arious other garages local to the testing stations to check if they'd serviced the car. No joy. It was around this time that I became aware of CRA 2015 and CPR 2008. At the end of January I started emailing the dealer asking questions about the service history. Dealer told me that a stamp in the book is generally accepted as proof of service. Prior to that I had messaged the salesman that I was dealing with prior to sale. He told me that he no longer worked for the company but his WhatsApp avatar suggested otherwise. He then told me that the dealer may not be willing to help me out regarding the service history because I'd left negative feedback.

    At the end of January I sent the dealer an official complaint via email and recorded letter. The response I got was that the "legal team" wer dealing with It and would respond soon. Guess who the legal team is? LegalSolutions4U.

    I'd set a 14 day deadline for response, threatening further action if none was received. I'd asked for a refund for rectifying all the faults that were present on the car, £650 or so.

    Didn't get a response for 20 days. Response was dealer is not liable.

    On 1st February I discovered that the input shaft bearing in the gearbox was worn. Local garage did a preliminary diagnosis but said that they would need to strip the gearbox out of the car to diagnose fully. Owned the car less than 6 months and driven only 1800 miles in that time. My guess is that the fault was there at purchase but didn't present itself until February.

    Needed the car running ahead of schools reopening on 8th March (my wife is a teacher). Sent an email and recorded letter to dealer on 1st Feb. 14 day deadline again. Asked the dealer to propose a solution to the problem. Made it clear that I didn't want to reject the car since I'd already invested in servicing and rust protection so would lose about a grand handing it back. Also made it clear that I didn't want a replacement for the same reason. Only option left was repair. No response, no phone call. Nada. Waited until 17th February before making the decision to get the gearbox fixed. Had a new clutch fitted at the same time as it was worn anyway. £1600 all in.

    Car felt totally different afterwards and fuel economy shot up.

    Eventually got a response from LegalSolutions4U. Dealer denies liability as I had acted unilaterally in instructing repairs. I didn't have much of a choice other than to hire a car or buy another car.

    And now the final kick in the teeth. Rear coil spring appears to be broken, I spotted it last Saturday morning. Since it's unsafe to drive with a broken spring my wife had to get an Uber to work and back today £35. Checked back through photos and video of the car prior to sale and rear driver's side wheel looks a bit wonky. Didn't notice it at the time and my attention wasn't drawn to this fault by the dealer prior to sale. When the car was delivered I didn't notice it either, in fact it looked fine as I have checked a photo that was taken about 20 minutes after delivery. It appears that some kind of repair was made prior to delivery. Spring is old and rusty so maybe they put a used spring on the car (unsafe) or did something else to make the car sit right. Either way coil springs should be replaced in matched axle pairs for safety reasons. Best way to achieve that is with new parts. This wasn't done.

    I've notified LegalSolutions4U and requested that the dealer take positive action to resolve this issue. I don't expect a reply anytime soon.

    I've also commissioned a post accident report from and IEAE inspector to assess the damage to the rear of the car as indicated by the BG crack in the rear bumper. I'm now concerned that this accident was more than a fender bender and may have compromised the integrity of the rear suspension. I don't want my wife to drive this car until this report is done.

    Since the dealer has already made it clear to me that he / she is not willing to engage in ADR I have threatened legal action if it transpires that this vehicle has been unsafe to drive since purchase. Luckily the dealer has (by mistake I think) admitted that the crack in the rear bumper was there before I bought it, whilst trying to dodge my claim of car not as described. Hence any other damage should also be present and detectable. He / she thinks that I had been made aware of the bumper damage prior to purchase by showing me a poorly framed grainy image of the rear of the car. If you didn't know there was a crack there you wouldn't see it.

    My wife is furious and want to part exchange the car for something else but we would only get about £1400 for it. We've invested heavily in this car when we shouldn't have needed to. If the dealer had met his / her obligations we wouldn't be in this situation. It's been a very stressful time.

    The car has been nicknamed the money pit.


    So with all this in mind, what is the best way for me to approach this in court once I have the report (assuming that the dealer does not want to settle out of court)?

    Vehicle not as described / not of satisfactory quality / not fit for purpose under CRA 2015
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    Or very serious miseading actions under Consumer Protection (Amendment) Regulations 2014.

    Ideally I would like to get back all the money I have spent on this car in order for it to match the description I was given by the dealer. Currently this stands at about £2300. This will go up if I have to fix the rear suspension.

    Can I still reject the car but claim damages for all the money I've spent on the car to put it right?

    Which approach has the better chance of success?

    Thanks in advance.
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  • #2
    Forgot to mention that car was purchased using a bank transfer so no extra consumer protection.. I may have posted this in the wrong forum........not sure.

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    • #3


      Our old friends LegalSolutions4U ..... expect lots of legalese

      As you want to keep the vehicle, I would be thinking along the lines of seeking damages or a price r4eduction as permitted by CRA 2015 sec19 (9);(10) & (11)

      Vehicle delivered 04.08.2020, so anything discovered prior to 04.02.2021 is deemed to have been present when vehicle delivered

      For items discovered after that final date you will have to show on balance of probabilities that the fault was present when delivered

      From past experience I would not expect them to negotiate in any meaningful manner, so just issue a letter before action and be ready to initiate court proceedings

      By all means also make reference to Consumer Protection (Amendment) Regulations 2014


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      • #4
        Thanks for your response,

        I’ve wasted so much time emailing Legalsolutions4U it’s unreal. Certainly a pre action letter is something I’m keen to do in the next week or two. I’m looking after a 2 year old and a 4 year old Monday to Friday so it’s hard to get anything done. Staying up til 11.30pm composing pointless emails has turned me into a Zombie.

        Am I right in thinking that it’s a legal requirement for the dealer to supply details of an ADR provider? So far I have asked three times and not surprisingly I’ve received nothing.

        I will post again when I have more info.

        Regards,

        S

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        • #5
          Forgot to ask, can you point me in the direction of a well drafted pre action template letter. I’ve heard stories that some online are not as good as they should be. Thanks, S

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          • #6
            How about looking in the Shortcuts Panel on this page?

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            • #7
              Thanks for your responses so far. I've almost finished drafting my pre action letter. There is a long list of documents and images I plan to use to support my case and equally there is a long list of documents I have requested from the trader. Each of these lists is about a page long. As it stands my draft is 6 pages. As far as a summary of the details of my claim is concerned, how much detail should I go into? At the moment it's several paragraphs and easily 2 pages long. Any help would me much appreciated.

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              • #8
                An LBA only needs to be short and pithy.

                basically I purchased vehicle XXXXXXXXXX from you on dd/mm yy
                I have since dd/mm/yy reported various faults to you which you have refused to correct
                To bring the vehicle to a satisfactory condition I have therefor had the following works carried out
                A)
                B)
                C)
                Total cost: £

                I now require you reimburse those costs within two weeks, i.e. by dd yy mm

                If you fail to respond be advised that I shall without further notice initiate a claim in the county court.
                This is in accordance with Consumer Rights Act 2015 sec19 (9);(10) & (11)

                Yours

                send signed for

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                • #9
                  Wow that’s great. I have obviously been overthinking things. Many thanks! Should I put something in the closing part of the letter stating that I would be willing to engage in ADR in order to avoid going to court?
                  Last edited by Stewjitsu72; 18th March 2021, 13:08:PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Stewjitsu72 View Post
                    Wow that’s great. I have obviously been overthinking things. Many thanks! Should I put something in the closing part of the letter stating that I would be willing to engage in ADR in order to avoid going to court?
                    I wouldn't as it will only encourage L4U to start sending delaying letters, which they will probably do anyway hoping the stress makes you give up!

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                    • #11
                      Understood. Thank you.

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                      • #12
                        Letter before action now sent by recorded delivery to their registered address in Companies House. Dealer has until close of business 17th April to respond. I'll post here again soon I hope.

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                        • #13
                          The registered address may be just the accountants business premises, quite common. Suggest you send to the place of business as well so there is no delay on receipt. Court forma can also be sent to place of doing business

                          Also suggest first class mail with a free certificate of posting from a post office. The signed for doesn't always get signed.

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                          • #14
                            Understood. I ran a check on outstanding CCJs for the trader and they have one from 8th February 2021 with the same address that I used on the judgement. I'll send another copy to the trading address as well. Thank you.

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                            • #15
                              I have now received an email response to my letter before action from the dealership via Legalsolutions4U.

                              The dealership is denying liability for all issues I have raised and the costs I have incurred. In addition Legalsolutions4U have requested that I supply proof that these issues were present at the point of delivery.

                              Am I right in thinking that if faults occurred within the first 6 months of ownership the burden of proof is with the dealership? I did notify the dealership on the second day of ownership of 5 separate faults but they did not ask for photo / video evidence then and did not ask me to bring the vehicle back to the dealership for inspection. They did initially tell me that these faults were wear and tear and that there was no money in the deal to make a gesture.

                              All but one of the faults I have experienced were brought to the attention of the dealership in the first 6 months of ownership.

                              I presume this is one of Legalsolutions4U’s delaying tactics. Should I go ahead and issue my claim via the county Court or wait until my 14 day deadline has expired (close of business 17th April 2020)?


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