IMF - PCN

[imf]

Hi @mystery1
Hope you're well. You helped me out a while ago. I have had another parking ticket (PCN). This time the driver parked in a disabled space as there were no spaces yet there were lots of disabled spaces free.
Do you think I have a leg to stand on?
I was thinking about using similar arguments as before i.e. The charge is a penalty, 2. Unfair charges, 3. Locus Standi

What do you think?

[mystery1]

Re: IMF - PCN

Since Beavis the game has changed.

http://legalbeagles.info/forums/show...land-and-Wales

Posting up a sanitised copy of the pcn would help.

M1

[imf]

Re: IMF - PCN

Many thanks [MENTION=5354]mystery1[/MENTION]
Here is a copy of the PCN. I know I was probably wrong to park in disabled but as I say there were others parked on yellow lines etc
I need to appeal in the 1st instance by the 23rd Nov
Thanks

[mystery1]

Re: IMF - PCN

So an IPC member who use theias.org for appeals . Low chance of winning on appeal with these shysters. I wouldn't appeal a notice to driver though. I'd wait for the notice to keeper as it'll probably be flawed. (takes between 28&56 days)

M1

[imf]

Re: IMF - PCN

Sorry I am not with you?
So you wouldn't suggest I appeal at all?
Wait for the notice to keeper? Are you suggesting ignore this notice until they contact me again?

[mystery1]

Re: IMF - PCN

I would appeal, eventually. I would wait for a postal notice first though, then appeal as keeper.

M1

[imf]

Re: IMF - PCN

Ok many thanks. So I will ignore it until I hear from the DVLA?
It mentions further costs may be incurred if full payment not received within 28 days. Is that the case usually? What are those costs? Any idea?

[mystery1]

Re: IMF - PCN

Not the DVLA, UKPP. When they get no response to the ticket on the windscreeen (notice to driver) they request the keepers details from DVLA and send a notice, by post, to the keeper. That's when it's best to appeal.

Costs are just a number. It goes up with every threat and then when they get nothing they make an offer of a discount to make the weak think they are getting a bargain. Only a court can order costs. Currently losing court claims cost about £200 all in.

http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/UK_Pa...ol_Office.html So far they don't do court.


M1

[imf]

Re: IMF - PCN

Thanks for clarifying.
Do you think it will be hard to get off this one or do the appeals sometimes work? Will I end up having to pay something then do you think? I only ask as you said earlier that there is a low chance of winning on appeal. What will my best outcome be?

[mystery1]

Re: IMF - PCN

Best outcome is to win on appeal.

Most likely best outcome is for it to be ignored (after appeals) and the statute of limitations to kick in after 6 years and a few scary letters.

M1

[imf]

Re: IMF - PCN

Hi @mystery1
I have now had a follow up letter form them regarding this. I have scanned it in & attached it. What do you suggest we do with this? Do they have a legot case here? Any chance of us appealing this? Whats the best course of action do you think?
Thanks alot

[mystery1]

Re: IMF - PCN

As yet they haven't done court. http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/UK_Pa...ol_Office.html

I would appeal on the off chance you can win.

http://legalbeagles.info/forums/show...530#post636530

M1

[imf]

Re: IMF - PCN

Many thanks. I will appeal. Before I do, can you confirm, I should use this simple appeal template on this link you shared?
http://legalbeagles.info/forums/show...530#post636530
Also is it worth noting there were other cars parked on double yellows &on grass verges in the car park with no tickets - I did take photos.
Or just use the appeal & add the driver saw no signs?
Thanks

[mystery1]

Re: IMF - PCN

Whatever, as long as you don't name or indicate who was driving.

M1

[imf]

Re: IMF - PCN

Hi @mystery1
Hope you're well.
I have now had a response from this. I did appeal as you suggested, I have not heard anything of the appeal but have now received the attached letter in the post from a debt recovery company.

What would you suggest is the next step?

Thanks