Parking in Private Residential Spaces - Queries

[IcedB]

Hi All,

My management company for my block of 35 or so flats have instructed "Parking & Property Managament Ltd" (The IPA) to issues PCNs to residents parked in visitor spots, visitors parked in residents spots (seems odd to me this one) and cars not parked in a space. This will cause an issue for the eight or so flats that have two cars. The second cars share the four visitor's spots and tuck the other cars away in the corners (where it doesn't block anyone in or cause an issue). However one owner parks outside someone's garage and it causes an issue for them as they can't get out very easily, so they have complained to the management company - ala the new parking regulations.

In our (maybe biased) view, the car park is woefully inadequate with only four visitors' spaces for that amount of flats. Hence the management company and the P&PM's stipulation that a visitor can only use the space for 48 hours over any fourteen day period.

I've attached P&PM's letter and there are various new signs up with the usual gumph and bit about a charge of "£100 being issued to improperly parked cars with a reduction of £40 paid within 7 days" (or whatever it will say). I'm not sure a charge of £100 can be justified as a legitimate loss of business if I've not blocked anyone, but I can't deny that I don't know about the contract.

I'm assuming if we keep parking in the corners we will keep being issued with PCNs. Are there any angles we can go down to stop them issuing them to our second car tucked away in the corner?

Thanks a lot

(We haven't been issued anything yet, the parking enforcement starts on Wednesday).

[mystery1]

Re: Parking in Private Residential Spaces - Queries

The best info is usually found in your lease.

M1

[IcedB]

Re: Parking in Private Residential Spaces - Queries

The lease says the same as the letter, in regards to the parking restrictions.
- Cars to be parked in marked bays only
- Visitors only in visitors spaces, and for 48 hours per 14 days.
- Residents only in correct residents spaces

I realise we bought the flat knowing that we would be over parking, but as previous residents had survived for 5 years since the construction of the flats, we thought we would be ok to carry on the tradition and park in the corners. We moved in at the end of last summer.

[wales01man]

Re: Parking in Private Residential Spaces - Queries

Think the lease says it all!

Things have been ok up to now ,maybe but no doubt there have been complaints and disputes about parking that's the norm most places, I would think all the leesees getting together to complain about this to the management company may be the answer a copy of the Legal agreement between all parties involved PPC management company and homeowners/tenants needs to be produced and a solicitors advice sought this may not be allowed in the leae agreements

[arabesque]

Re: Parking in Private Residential Spaces - Queries

It's "Parking & Property Management" (not "parking & property management") in case someone googles this. Also, according to the latest FOI information, Parking and Property Management didn't take anyone to court in the whole of 2014.

[mystery1]

Re: Parking in Private Residential Spaces - Queries

It's "Parking & Property Management" (not "parking & property management") in case someone googles this. Also, according to the latest FOI information, Parking and Property Management didn't take anyone to court in the whole of 2014.

Whether the parking clowns enter a full on feeding frenzy or crawl back under a stone depends largely upon the result in Beavis.

M1

[IcedB]

Re: Parking in Private Residential Spaces - Queries

Think the lease says it all!

Things have been ok up to now ,maybe but no doubt there have been complaints and disputes about parking that's the norm most places, I would think all the leesees getting together to complain about this to the management company may be the answer a copy of the Legal agreement between all parties involved PPC management company and homeowners/tenants needs to be produced and a solicitors advice sought this may not be allowed in the leae agreements

The only thing the lease doesn't mention is about visitors parking in residential spots. This one seems absurd to me. What if I my cars are somewhere else and we have a visitor and the visitor's spaces are used. Surely it is ok to give my car port to them if it doesn't say this in the lease.

E: Just reread my lease and it doesn't say we cannot park outside the designated bays, it just says we cannot block any road ways or vehicular access within the development. Interesting. Down the the interpretation of "block" I guess.

Also are they allowed onto my property (the car port) to see if there is a valid permit displayed? The lease only says the management company or duly authorised agents are allowed onto my property at all reasonable times by appointment or in an emergency. And there has been no variation on the lease issued to us.

It's "Parking & Property Management" (not "parking & property management") in case someone googles this. Also, according to the latest FOI information, Parking and Property Management didn't take anyone to court in the whole of 2014.

That's interesting. Have you got any links to the FOI, I'm curious.

Whether the parking clowns enter a full on feeding frenzy or crawl back under a stone depends largely upon the result in Beavis.

M1

I guess we will find out in a few weeks.

They have evidently been to visit the car park today (the day the enforcement starts) as the locations of some of the parking signs have moved.