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PCN's issued for car I had sold - Baliff's now involved.
Hi all,
In*a bit of a ludicrous situation and any help would be gratefully received as it's driving me slightly insane.
Some background: I sold a car on 01/08/19 and the subsequent owner appears to have racked up a number of PCN's in the London Borough of Enfield (not where I live). The first I knew of this is when I received the letters demanding full payment through the post. I contacted the DVLA and they provided me with a letter confirming the original change of date. The full text of which is as follows;
'Thank you for your enquiry about the above vehicle. I can confirm you are no longer shown as the keeper of the vehicle from 01/08/2019. Your disposal notification was received on 08/11/19 and our records were updated on 08/11/19. You should return any statutory notices for an offence/contravention that took place after you sold/transferred the vehicle to the issuing authority. Give them what details you can. Only the issuing authority can make a decision based on the evidence you provide.'
So I sent an appeal to Enfield council including a copy of this letter. This was outside the 28 days, as I had to wait 14 days for the DVLA to send their letter - I did email Enfield Council to explain I was waiting for this and would send on as soon as I had it, which I did.
I subsequently received no email by return rejecting this - but did receive a letter of Notice of Rejection for one of the PCN's via post. Subsequently, i've received an Order for Recovery from Northampton court.
I feel like i'm completely mad as firstly, how can the council reject an appeal which clearly shows (with DVLA evidence!) that I did not own the vehicle. Northampton court say they will not consider the substance of the appeal, only the council. So how on earth can I get these struck off?!
The situation has been made worse in that one of the two PCN's that has gone to the court is now with Baliffs (Marstons), as I was away and did not receive the Order of Recovery in time. They are saying that the DVLA letter is not enough as, I quote, 'it can be backdated'. But surely only by the DVLA?! They also say that they require the letter, a receipt (I only have a paper one as cars are mainly sold for cash) and notice of cancellation of insurance (which I did not do til the next month due to being busy - annoying for me as I had to pay an extra month but surely not proof of anything?)
Honestly, any advice would be so gratefully received as I feel like i'm in an insane situation where they're attempting to prosecute me for contraventions on a car I didn't own and have DVLA proof to back that up. I'm happy to provide any more info or clarify anything i've been unclear about! This is a problem as there are currently 5 PCN's outstanding* - one with Baliffs, one with NCC and three still with Enfield. The guy who bought it clearly didn't understand the concept of yellow lines...
In*a bit of a ludicrous situation and any help would be gratefully received as it's driving me slightly insane.
Some background: I sold a car on 01/08/19 and the subsequent owner appears to have racked up a number of PCN's in the London Borough of Enfield (not where I live). The first I knew of this is when I received the letters demanding full payment through the post. I contacted the DVLA and they provided me with a letter confirming the original change of date. The full text of which is as follows;
'Thank you for your enquiry about the above vehicle. I can confirm you are no longer shown as the keeper of the vehicle from 01/08/2019. Your disposal notification was received on 08/11/19 and our records were updated on 08/11/19. You should return any statutory notices for an offence/contravention that took place after you sold/transferred the vehicle to the issuing authority. Give them what details you can. Only the issuing authority can make a decision based on the evidence you provide.'
So I sent an appeal to Enfield council including a copy of this letter. This was outside the 28 days, as I had to wait 14 days for the DVLA to send their letter - I did email Enfield Council to explain I was waiting for this and would send on as soon as I had it, which I did.
I subsequently received no email by return rejecting this - but did receive a letter of Notice of Rejection for one of the PCN's via post. Subsequently, i've received an Order for Recovery from Northampton court.
I feel like i'm completely mad as firstly, how can the council reject an appeal which clearly shows (with DVLA evidence!) that I did not own the vehicle. Northampton court say they will not consider the substance of the appeal, only the council. So how on earth can I get these struck off?!
The situation has been made worse in that one of the two PCN's that has gone to the court is now with Baliffs (Marstons), as I was away and did not receive the Order of Recovery in time. They are saying that the DVLA letter is not enough as, I quote, 'it can be backdated'. But surely only by the DVLA?! They also say that they require the letter, a receipt (I only have a paper one as cars are mainly sold for cash) and notice of cancellation of insurance (which I did not do til the next month due to being busy - annoying for me as I had to pay an extra month but surely not proof of anything?)
Honestly, any advice would be so gratefully received as I feel like i'm in an insane situation where they're attempting to prosecute me for contraventions on a car I didn't own and have DVLA proof to back that up. I'm happy to provide any more info or clarify anything i've been unclear about! This is a problem as there are currently 5 PCN's outstanding* - one with Baliffs, one with NCC and three still with Enfield. The guy who bought it clearly didn't understand the concept of yellow lines...
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