Hi Guys
I'm wondering if there is an alternative body to the Local Government Ombudsman. The reason that I ask is that I have now exhausted my local councils complaints procedure without any resolution. Unfortunately the LGO state on their website that they do not deal with matters relating to court procedure.
My complaint to my local council concerned the way that they conduct council tax hearings. Last year I was summonsed for non payment of council tax, upon arriving at court I was told by a council "court officer" that there were no magistrates sitting that day (a ridiculous lie that was seen to be told to everyone in attendance) I insisted upon my legal right for my case to be heard by a magistrate. Eventually I was ushered into a second court room which was packed full of people talking with council staff, most of whom I assume were making arrangements to pay. (stage two response claims this is for privacy, which is ridiculous as there was barely a place to sit and peoples private matters were being openly discussed in public)
I spoke to a council worker there, who told me that she was the prosecution for the council and continued with the charade of trying to convince me that there were no magistrates in attendance that day. After looking at the figures that I had brought to explain my income which showed there was no way that I could afford to pay she continued to try and convince me that there were no magistrates. At no point did she offer any advice about payment.
A few weeks later I received what I consider to be a very threatening and indtimidating notification that an order had been made against me in my absence and stating that unless I paid I would be receiving a visit from bailiffs. (never happened)
I contacted the local council leader about the way that I had been treated in court, he promised to look into my complaint and of course never bothered to get back to me. However, I found out later that he had been in contact with the council tax departments director concerning myself and my complaint. The way that I found this out was when someone in the council tax department (I don't know who) sent me a copy of an email, stating that they thought that a copy should of been sent to me. This was an email from the director of council tax to the council leader about me.
Beside explaining to the council leader that they would answer no correspondence from me until such time as I made an official complaint, he also stated:
"We have two courts at a hearing. One for our advisor's taking arrangements and another for the hearings themselves. We do try and avoid taking up court time with people who do not have a valid defence against the action and this is the majority of attendees."
I made my complaint, part of which asked how the council tax director could without any shadow of doubt state that the majority of attendees had no valid defence, and that I believed that a court was a place of law and not run by unqualified council workers.
Unhappy with the stage one answer I asked that my complaint be considered at stage two. My complaint was passed to stage two and promptly sent back to stage one to answer! Again I was unhappy with the updated response at stage one and asked again for my complaint to be considered at stage two. After waiting 11 weeks for a response (website states 10 working days) I informed stage 2 that unless I had a response within a week I would proceed to the LGO. Two weeks later I received a photocopied response from stage two, which was little better that the stage one response. Interestingly in this response I am told (inaccurately I believe) that the council can set the cost of a summons at whatever they please and that it is not a conflict of interest to have the councils own prosecutor advising people of their position in court, that position being that they have no case. Also unsurprisingly there was no mention in their response to my mention of the statements made by the director of council tax to the council leader and his comments about the "second court"
My local council deny that there is any conflict of interest when they use council workers including their own prosecutor to dissuade people from their right to be heard in court and to make arrangements to pay instead.
Finally it was mentioned in my stage two response that the council tax department had provided e-mails written by myself, which were written before I made any formal complaint, to the person handling the stage two response. However, I was told previously that any correspondence sent by myself up until the point that i made a "formal complaint" would be ignored. This would seem to be a very underhand tactic and in my opinion was done to bias the outcome of the stage two decision.
I'm not sure if there is anything that you guys can advise me that will enable me to take this any further but thank you for taking the time to read. I do have all relevant e-mails if they are required.
Thank You
Kenny.
I'm wondering if there is an alternative body to the Local Government Ombudsman. The reason that I ask is that I have now exhausted my local councils complaints procedure without any resolution. Unfortunately the LGO state on their website that they do not deal with matters relating to court procedure.
My complaint to my local council concerned the way that they conduct council tax hearings. Last year I was summonsed for non payment of council tax, upon arriving at court I was told by a council "court officer" that there were no magistrates sitting that day (a ridiculous lie that was seen to be told to everyone in attendance) I insisted upon my legal right for my case to be heard by a magistrate. Eventually I was ushered into a second court room which was packed full of people talking with council staff, most of whom I assume were making arrangements to pay. (stage two response claims this is for privacy, which is ridiculous as there was barely a place to sit and peoples private matters were being openly discussed in public)
I spoke to a council worker there, who told me that she was the prosecution for the council and continued with the charade of trying to convince me that there were no magistrates in attendance that day. After looking at the figures that I had brought to explain my income which showed there was no way that I could afford to pay she continued to try and convince me that there were no magistrates. At no point did she offer any advice about payment.
A few weeks later I received what I consider to be a very threatening and indtimidating notification that an order had been made against me in my absence and stating that unless I paid I would be receiving a visit from bailiffs. (never happened)
I contacted the local council leader about the way that I had been treated in court, he promised to look into my complaint and of course never bothered to get back to me. However, I found out later that he had been in contact with the council tax departments director concerning myself and my complaint. The way that I found this out was when someone in the council tax department (I don't know who) sent me a copy of an email, stating that they thought that a copy should of been sent to me. This was an email from the director of council tax to the council leader about me.
Beside explaining to the council leader that they would answer no correspondence from me until such time as I made an official complaint, he also stated:
"We have two courts at a hearing. One for our advisor's taking arrangements and another for the hearings themselves. We do try and avoid taking up court time with people who do not have a valid defence against the action and this is the majority of attendees."
I made my complaint, part of which asked how the council tax director could without any shadow of doubt state that the majority of attendees had no valid defence, and that I believed that a court was a place of law and not run by unqualified council workers.
Unhappy with the stage one answer I asked that my complaint be considered at stage two. My complaint was passed to stage two and promptly sent back to stage one to answer! Again I was unhappy with the updated response at stage one and asked again for my complaint to be considered at stage two. After waiting 11 weeks for a response (website states 10 working days) I informed stage 2 that unless I had a response within a week I would proceed to the LGO. Two weeks later I received a photocopied response from stage two, which was little better that the stage one response. Interestingly in this response I am told (inaccurately I believe) that the council can set the cost of a summons at whatever they please and that it is not a conflict of interest to have the councils own prosecutor advising people of their position in court, that position being that they have no case. Also unsurprisingly there was no mention in their response to my mention of the statements made by the director of council tax to the council leader and his comments about the "second court"
My local council deny that there is any conflict of interest when they use council workers including their own prosecutor to dissuade people from their right to be heard in court and to make arrangements to pay instead.
Finally it was mentioned in my stage two response that the council tax department had provided e-mails written by myself, which were written before I made any formal complaint, to the person handling the stage two response. However, I was told previously that any correspondence sent by myself up until the point that i made a "formal complaint" would be ignored. This would seem to be a very underhand tactic and in my opinion was done to bias the outcome of the stage two decision.
I'm not sure if there is anything that you guys can advise me that will enable me to take this any further but thank you for taking the time to read. I do have all relevant e-mails if they are required.
Thank You
Kenny.
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