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Rossendale Rip-Off?!

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  • Rossendale Rip-Off?!

    Hello,
    Apologies for yet another thread about Rossendales and council tax, but after reading several other threads, seeing the great advice which has been given and not being able to find an identical situation, I'm hoping that people might be able to share their experience with me to resolve my issue with Rossendales.

    At the end of January 2012 my partner and I received a magistrates liability order letter from Rossendales relating to unpaid council tax on a property that we had moved out of six months previously. We were unaware that we were in debt to the council for an outstanding tax, but attempted to call the mobile number of the bailiff on the letter several times to resolve this. No -one ever answered this number and because I didn't want to leave him a voicemail with my mobile number, I then called the office number and finally made full payment (including an 80p card surcharge!) on 5th March. In our opinion, this had resolved the issue and we did not owe any further amount to Rossendales or our local council.

    This evening, when my partner returned home from work, he discovered another MLO letter from them saying that the bailiff was giving us 24 hours notice of his intentions to recall and remove our goods to satisfy the cost of the outstanding amount owed to them. Both of us were obviously pretty angry as we were under the impression that this was a resolved issue and that it had now been left nearly 3 months for them to contact us again. I called the number for the bailiff on the letter, trying to find out exactly how much we owe, what the breakdown of the costs is and what period of time this magistrates liability order relates to, as we honestly believed that our council tax at our previous address was up to date. The guy that I spoke to was rude, aggressive and could not address any of the issues which I had raised with him, all he said was that they had sent letters - which we had never received - and that we should query it with head office in the morning, but that he will visit again tomorrow and that will incur another fee. I believe he quoted around £100 for this but the line wasn't clear and he obviously was making it difficult for me to understand what he was saying.

    What I'm hoping for is some advice on how to handle this situation, it seems ridiculous that a bailiff can try to enforce payment when he doesn't even have an idea of what the payment relates to and why we are now being charged again. On his letter today, where the balance should have been written, he simply put "TBC with bailiff". I'm really unsure where we stand on this, I don't want to pay Rossendales for their bully boy tactics, but I also don't want this to proceed any further. If I deal with their head office, are they legally able to keep adding on fees until the issue is resolved?

    Any help would be gratefully received, thank you
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    Re: Rossendale Rip-Off?!

    Hello.

    First of all ignore the bailiffs, don't give them anything and don't believe anything they tell you!

    Go check all your CT bills and get them in date order. Then create a list of dates and the amounts due. i.e. April 2010-March 2011= £xxxxx , then work out the payments you have made already and match them to the bills by dates paid.

    You say you moved out of a house and then got a bill for outstanding CT for that house yet you believed you had already paid the bill? Did you pay the full year for that house before you moved?
    Did you move house during the taxable year? (April to march)
    Did you get a bill for the new house for the full year? (for the same taxable year)

    Answer those questions and we may be able to help, or possibly you may be able to help us!

    Thanks

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    • #3
      Re: Rossendale Rip-Off?!

      Hi Ian,

      I spoke to the council this morning and the outstanding debt which we had with them was for the period just prior to moving out. With the stress of moving out, we probably just overlooked the payment. The amount that was owed to the council was £172.39 and when we moved, our council changed so I believe that anything relating to our new property will be irrelevant. The council have said that of the £215 which we have paid to Rossendales already, they have only been paid £12.39 of our outstanding debt, so the other £203 has been pocketed by Rossendales.

      They told me that the charges which the bailiffs have added are as follows:- £24 for the first visit, £18 for the second visit, £135 for a van bailiff (as we apparently hadn't responded) £32 levy fee, which incidentally has been put on a car which actually belongs to one of our neighbours who parks very close to our house.

      I was under the impression that without gaining access to our property, they aren't able to put a levy on items, especially ones that don't actually belong to us. I want to approach Rossendales but don't know how to go about this.

      Thanks for any help you can give.

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      • #4
        Re: Rossendale Rip-Off?!

        Okay Indiecindy,

        It appears that both you and your local council have been defrauded by Rossendales. They can't charge for a van that hasn't turned up and the levy fee on your neighbour's car is invalid, if not, illegal. They cannot levy on third party property or seize it. Legally, they can only levy on and seize a debtor's property. Unless they can provide evidence of the first and second visits, from the circumstances you have outlined, Rossendales are committing Fraud by False Misrepresentation (Section 2(1), Fraud Act 2006) at the very least. However, making unwarranted threats with menaces is a criminal offence as well and carries a far harsher penalty than Fraud.

        My gut-feeling is that you should go back to your local authority and discuss the matter with them as it certainly appears both you and they have been defrauded by Rossendales. If your council asks if you are willing to give a statement to their fraud investigators or your local police, you would be well-advised to give them all the help you can give.
        Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

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