land registey say I own the land

[rommany]

Hi everyone....so many problems over houses and land .....

My problem is I have a lovely little detached cottage and a paddock to the side with parking down a quiet lane leading to a dead end
idyllic.....but my over the paddock neighbour hates us because we bought the paddock he was trying to steal......and has stopped him stealing more of it ....so far....
We have a copy of a letter from the land registry stating we own the land that our neighbor is trying to obtain through threats and letters.
we have spent 2 years fighting them because they will not accept the land registry letter ......what else can we do????
We want to sell and move on ,,,,

[Crazy council]

Re: land registey say I own the land

when you say the land registry say you own the land. do you meen a title deed, or just the outline of the land is within your property boundaries on the land registry.

if the land has a title deed, are there any covenants or restrictions on it

[rommany]

Re: land registey say I own the land

when you say the land registry say you own the land. do you meen a title deed, or just the outline of the land is within your property boundaries on the land registry.

if the land has a title deed, are there any covenants or restrictions on it

The neighbor came onto our land with a chartered suveyor who took measurments and drew up a plan of the area the neighbor wanted to claim as his. They then sent that plan to the land regitry to see of our title plan had been wrongly registered.
The land registry sent a letter back to the neighbor's solicitor saying they had looked at their plan and could confirm that the whole of that plan laid with our title and that our title had been correctly registered. The neighbor did not like that reply and changed solicitors....we wonder if this new solicitor is aware of this letter??....there are no covenants or restrictions on the land....
He keeps saying he has never had this letter but I now have a copy of the letter.I paid £7.00 and the land registry sent me a copy.
I do not want to spend any more time and money with solicitors all we keep doing is answering their letters which is costing a lot of money can we just ignore them???

[enquirer]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Presumably you have a copy of the Land Certificate and accompanying Land Plan. That, together with the letter from the Land Registry confirming that his claim is spurious, should be quite sufficient.

The issue is therefore the neighbour himself. Obviously, he thinks that he can get what he wants through a campaign of harassment and intimidation, so it is this that needs to be addressed. An extremely stiff letter from your solicitor threatening him with an injunction under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 might do the trick.

Now here's the catch - if you do this, then when you come to sell, you may well have to declare the existence of an unpleasant neighbour. This might put buyers off.

However, this then begs the question - is he aware of your intention to sell? Is he attempting to frustrate your sale in order to force you to sell (or even give), the land to him? If so, then you probably have no choice other than to seek an injunction.

[Crazy council]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Dont worry about it then for the moment

It may not be the end of the dispute from your neighbour. what exactly is his claim, that its his not yours, that its not yours, or that its shared ?

To be absolutely sure, i would pop down the local council archives,, check the original property boundaries. see if it was included with your property from the start. Or if it was ever considered a piece of land in itself.

[Celestine]

Re: land registey say I own the land

To be honest, the mere fact that solicitors letters have been sent and there is/has been a dispute would need declaring in any event of a sale process. You hardly want the whole problem kicking off again after any sale and your purchasers coming back at you for a claim because they were not fully informed of the dispute.

I do think a VERY stiffly worded lawyers letter would be a sound investment because this conduct does seem to amount to harassment and is certainly spoiling your right to peaceful enjoyment of your property.

[Crazy council]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Hi

did you buy the piece of land separately.. Ie it has separate title...

The land registry sent a letter back to the neighbor's solicitor saying they had looked at their plan and could confirm that the whole of that plan laid with our title and that our title had been correctly registered. The neighbor did not like that reply and changed solicitors....we wonder if this new solicitor is aware of this letter??.

They usually insist on measurements from chartered surveyor, local search of records to plot from the earliest land divisions. I have seen solicitors attempt to do this, and be rejected. .

[rommany]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Presumably you have a copy of the Land Certificate and accompanying Land Plan. That, together with the letter from the Land Registry confirming that his claim is spurious, should be quite sufficient.

The issue is therefore the neighbour himself. Obviously, he thinks that he can get what he wants through a campaign of harassment and intimidation, so it is this that needs to be addressed. An extremely stiff letter from your solicitor threatening him with an injunction under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 might do the trick.

Now here's the catch - if you do this, then when you come to sell, you may well have to declare the existence of an unpleasant neighbour. This might put buyers off.

However, this then begs the question - is he aware of your intention to sell? Is he attempting to frustrate your sale in order to force you to sell (or even give), the land to him? If so, then you probably have no choice other than to seek an injunction.

thank you for the reply
I think you have the whole picture even though the land registry has told him it is our land he still is trying to intimidate us into giving him that part of our land...we have paid a solicitor for over 2 years to answer all letters from them but will this ever stop???

[rommany]

Re: land registey say I own the land

No we bought the land as a whole and the title plan was registered as a whole and the boundary line has not changed . they are trying to move the boundary line to change our our line of our boundary between the 2 properties,,,,there is more I could say about the Harassment we have endured ..to the extent of telling lies about us to try and make us loose our jobs....I work in a local shop and my husband drives the local school bus we were trying to semi retire and enjoy our little bit of land to grow veg fruit and keep bees ....

[rommany]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Yes absolutely but we have paid a solicitor to answer all the letters and swift sharp letters have been sent....but still it goes on..and on...
Our neighbor had said he will never give up and he wants us to go........ I wish we could.....

[rommany]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Yes i have done that and it is ours.......

[rommany]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Thank you all for your time in replying to my post it seems we are stuck with it ....even though its our land our neighbor is making a nuisance
to stop us enjoying or moving on from here...

[des8]

Re: land registey say I own the land

Posts 4 & 6 seem to offer a possible way of stopping the harassment.

[Crazy council]

Re: land registey say I own the land

No we bought the land as a whole and the title plan was registered as a whole and the boundary line has not changed . they are trying to move the boundary line to change our our line of our boundary between the 2 properties

got you, you purchased the land and house at the same time. It sounds like what your neigbour was trying to intimidate/presure you into agreeing. He would need your agreement to change the assumed boundaries. To do anything its going to cost him, and if he had any reasonable paperwork on his side, he would have presented it.

How do you think he will act if you get a solisitor to write to him to, do you think he will. Is he one of those people that feeds off arguments. great retirement plan by the way,,, bee keeper... .

i did not see the below untill i posted

Yes absolutely but we have paid a solicitor to answer all the letters and swift sharp letters have been sent....but still it goes on..and on...
Our neighbor had said he will never give up and he wants us to go........ I wish we could.....

perhaps the harrasment route will be the only way to stop him.

[rommany]

Re: land registey say I own the land

got you, you purchased the land and house at the same time. It sounds like what your neigbour was trying to intimidate/presure you into agreeing. He would need your agreement to change the assumed boundaries. To do anything its going to cost him, and if he had any reasonable paperwork on his side, he would have presented it.

How do you think he will act if you get a solisitor to write to him to, do you think he will. Is he one of those people that feeds off arguments. great retirement plan by the way,,, bee keeper... .

We have used solicitors for2 years.... he sends threats we answer and he goes away for a bit and then he comes back with more threats we answer with a solicitors letter asking for proof etc but then he goes away again....by not answering.....so no resolve....