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Amend restraining order to prevent neighbour returning after prison

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  • Amend restraining order to prevent neighbour returning after prison

    I am going to cut a very long story short.

    Our next door neighbour will shortly finish his second jail sentence for crimes against us. After many times threatening to burn down our house, and then assaulting me (for which no charges were laid as there were no independent witnesses), in 2020 he screamed racist abuse at us and then came round with an iron bar and went round the house smashing every window and glass door. The cost of the damage was c.£16,000. He served 18 months and had an indefinite restraining order imposed to never make contact with us.

    A year after returning home, he screamed more threats and abuse. The police attended and heard the abuse. He was arrested and charged with breaching his restraining order. He was sentenced to 16 months custody. He is currently on licence which includes an exclusion zone of about 20 sq miles. This terminates next month and he will then be able to visit, but not live at, his house during an additional four months of post-sentence supervision. He can then return to live at home.

    At his last sentencing, the CPS barrister suggested we might be able to have his restraining order amended to prevent him returning to his house after he completes his sentence. He has alcohol and mental health issues and I think the authorities are clear that he continues to pose a serious risk to us.

    A barrister friend has put us in contact with a lawyer to advise us, whose fee for a first discussion would be over £1000. Our hunch is that once he has completed his sentence, he cannot be prevented from returning home. We have experience of expensive legal consultations where we are told 'there's not much you can do' and we do not want to pursue a ‘speculative’ case. However, if there is a clear and tested legal path to prevent him returning to his home permanently, we would be interested in knowing this. My question is whether this path exists, and what the legal basis would be?
    Last edited by aroominyork; 6th October 2024, 15:41:PM.
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    Hi AROOMINYORK

    Welcome to LB

    islandgirl maybe able to advise on this.

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    • #3
      He served 18 months and had an indefinite restraining order imposed to never make contact with us.
      So this person cannot contact you in any way indefinately. That is good news. As for a new order here is the information you need.

      https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidanc...raining-orders

      Clearly to make the application you would need a solicitor to act for you. £1k for an initial consultation sounds way over the top to me. Go and see a few local solicitors who appear regularly in the court concerned and know it well and get their opinion as to your chances of success.

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      • #4
        Thank you, ISLANDGIRL. I am now contacting local solicitors and will arrange a couple of meetings. (It was actually £1200+VAT, which is guess is the price when your friend is a London KC and connects you with solicitors in similar circles!)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by aroominyork View Post
          Thank you, ISLANDGIRL. I am now contacting local solicitors and will arrange a couple of meetings. (It was actually £1200+VAT, which is guess is the price when your friend is a London KC and connects you with solicitors in similar circles!)
          You can get some free Pro Bono advice 30 - 45 minutes, that what you need to look for initially, then check reviews etc.

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          • #6
            I'm going in ever decreasing circles trying to find a law firm to assist. The firms I have contacted either deal in civil matters or in criminal defence. Can anyone advise where I could find a good solicitor with experience of applying to have a restraining order strengthened?

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            • #7
              I would suggest criminal lawyers will have a good knowledge of this area

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              • #8
                They seem only to defend!

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                • #9
                  We're really struggling to find a firm to advise us. The criminal law solicitors only defend, so we feel stuck somewhere between civil and criminal law. We finally got a consulation arranged for today, paid for the first meeting fee in advance (£120+VAT - 10% of London prices) and half an hour before the meeting they rang to say they must cancel it due to a conflict - presumably meaning they had acted for our neighbour!

                  If anyone can advise us on how to break through this apparent dead end it would be much appreciated. (PS Despite the user name, we are just outside Brighton.)
                  Last edited by aroominyork; 9th October 2024, 19:17:PM.

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                  • #10
                    I am so sorry that you did not get your meeting which was of course at a much more reasonable cost. I find it hard to believe that local solicitors are so busy they cannot help with what is probably a fairly straightforward application. There is some information here https://gtstewart.co.uk/restraining-orders/ (posted for info not to recommend the firm who wrote it!) Also see
                    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...training-order

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                    • #11
                      It doesn't seem they are too busy. It seems that firms working in civil matters see it as outside their scope, and firms working in criminal only defend. We seem to be in a legal desert!

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                      • #12
                        Ring the Law Society, see if they can direct you to firms that can help.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by aroominyork View Post
                          It doesn't seem they are too busy. It seems that firms working in civil matters see it as outside their scope, and firms working in criminal only defend. We seem to be in a legal desert!
                          Thank you - this worked and I have an intro to a partner at a firm which, when I earlier called them, had said they only defend. The partner we will meet looks very good. However he wrote that applying for a variation is not something he has done or seen anyone other than the CPS do. So we will meet him to explore the strength of our case and, possibly, have him try to get the CPS to make the application. Any views on this would be welcome.
                          Last edited by aroominyork; 15th October 2024, 14:15:PM.

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                          • #14
                            In my last post I meant to quote ECHAT11's "Ring the Law Society, see if they can direct you to firms that can help.". I just noticed I 'mis-quoted' and it seems too late to edit the pst. So thank you, ECHAT11.



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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by aroominyork View Post
                              In my last post I meant to quote ECHAT11's "Ring the Law Society, see if they can direct you to firms that can help.". I just noticed I 'mis-quoted' and it seems too late to edit the pst. So thank you, ECHAT11.


                              Thanks for updating.

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