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  • Unusual property dispute

    OK so this is a real odd one, and not sure whether this is the correct part of the forum to post this...advise if not!

    We have a garden in our deeds (it's not attached to the house). In the garden there are two outbuildings. Said outbuildings are split into two (they were previously old toilets/coalsheds). We own a HALF of each of these outbuildings (i.e. one toilet in each lol). The other half of each outbuilding is owned by our neighbour who is presently selling her house (it's actually sold but not completed). To get this into perspective the outbuildings are in an awful state, and we have been asking our neighbour to come to an agreement regarding maintenance since Christ was a lad...she doesn't user her side and they're full of holes and leaves. For obvious reasons, if we maintain all the buildings, we bear all the cost and only half the benefit, she gets away with paying nothing, and to boot could argue that our rectification work is not to standard and is an eyesore, and even sue us to put it back to the state it was.

    On the sale of the property she promised to sell her share to us, but has reneged on this promise.

    We own the land surrounding the buildings and own the land underneath OUR HALF of the buildings (she owns the land and 'airspace' above her share). To be blunt they need serious remedial work, or knocking down and rebuilding as they are hugely unsightly, and unsafe - we have dogs and children playing in the garden and we're worried they may get hurt. As I said, we cannot do a lot to our own half as we're bound to our neighbour...if we demolish our side then we could make her buildings even more unsound and she could maybe even say we damaged her property!

    From talking to our legal reps they say that we have virtually no leg to stand on, we cannot force her to sell (fair enough), but I cannot see how we cannot force her to come to an agreement regarding maintenance. The buildings are unsafe. Our legal rep said that the neighbour could argue that we are not maintaining our half - but as I said, our hands are tied regarding that!!

    Surely there must be some case law regarding a duty of care to maintain a building on someone else's property due to the safety aspect of it? We just feel totally stuck.

    Please advise Bambi
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  • #2
    Possibly wait till she has sold and then deal with your new neighbour, who, naturally, will be far more reasonable

    des8 your area I believe ? ( planning, not outside loos specifically )
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    • #3
      If you consider the buildings to be in a dangerous condition (To be blunt they need serious remedial work, or knocking down and rebuilding as they are hugely unsightly, and unsafe - we have dogs and children playing in the garden and we're worried they may get hurt.) request your local authority send out their building inspector with a view to issuing a
      Prior to issuing a sec 78 notice the LA should send to the owners a dangerous building notice which contains the following information:
      • the name and address of the owner
      • the address of the dangerous building
      • a list of any co-owners and their addresses
      • the commencement and completion dates for remedial work (appropriate timescales set by authority)
      • the dangerous aspects of the building and the work necessary to comply with the notice, including any protective works and specialist supervision required and offering options where possible, for example, repair or demolish
      • notes on right of appeal
      • a warning on the consequences of failing to carry out the stipulated works ( probably a.Sec 78 notice under the Building Act 1984 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/55/section/78).

      ...and Amethyst whilst we have owned houses in Wales with a Ty Bach down the garden we do now have indoor facilities

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      • #4
        Wow wow wow thanks guys. Never thought of going to the LA. I will try that one. Thanks both.

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