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Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

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  • Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

    A JUDGES ruling over an antique steel knife has challenged the policy of, Let the Buyer Beware and may affect auctioneers cataloguing practices and their terms and conditions.

    In a Dorset court, District Judge J. Freeman ruled against the legal convention of Caveat Emptor when a “material misdescription” in cataloguing and, importantly, the presentation of the lot in an image supplied with the auctioneers description, had led to a purchase.

    The case was brought before Weymouth County Court by militaria dealer Alan Beadle, who bought the knife at Eastbourne Auction Rooms on May 4 last year.

    The auctioneers had described it as Steel bladed military kukri knife, the leather scabbard with impressed military marks
    , and estimated it at £20-30. Mr Beadle lodged his bid by email and purchased the lot for £
    150 plus premium.

    When he received the knife, Mr Beadle realised that it was not a military kukri as it had no military marks on the knife itself. In fact it was a civilian knife, worth in the region of
    £
    20.

    The knife was also two inches too short to fit in the scabbard, which was bent over and creased at the end, something which was impossible to tell from the picture he was sent of the knife in the scabbard.

    The auctioneers
    ,
    defence was that it was up to buyers to satisfy themselves of the nature of what they were buying before the sale and that Mr Beadle had not asked the right questions before bidding.

    As with a great many auctioneers, the terms and conditions of Eastbourne Auction Rooms state that lots are set out in the catalogue with all faults, imperfections and errors of description, and neither the vendor nor the auctioneers are responsible for the authenticity, attribution, genuineness, origin, authorship, date, age, period, condition or quality of any lot.

    The terms and conditions continue: All statements are a matter of opinion and should not be taken as implying statements or representations of fact.

    When the case came to court Eastbourne Auction Rooms maintained that the description was correct and pointed out that Mr Beadle was a specialist in arms and militaria and they were not.

    However, the judge stated in his ruling that use of the word
    military
    in the description had constituted a material misdescription of the item which led the claimant to purchase it.

    The ruling continued: By accepting his bid they must have known he might act that way and therefore had a duty to get the description correct.

    Additionally, as the items plainly did not belong together, the single photo of the knife in the scabbard is itself capable of being a misdescription.

    The dealer said in his submission to the court: It takes no expert knowledge to see that it is quite obvious that the knife had nothing to do with the sheath.

    Judge Freeman ordered the auctioneers to pay Mr Beadle
    £200 plus a £
    30 court fee, but stated: In coming to this conclusion, I do not in any way impugn the honesty of the defendants. They have quite innocently misdescribed the item for which he has no use at all.

    At the time of going to press, no one at Eastbourne Auction Rooms was available for comment.

    The ruling could now set a precedent for similar cases which come up in local courts. It means that the traditional defence of Caveat Emptor may not offer such a legal absolution for auctioneers in the future, and it also means that auctioneers will have to be more careful about how they present lots in images promoting sales.

    Such cases are not uncommon. Indeed, a further case comes up this week at Gloucester County Court in a claim being made against Holloway’s auction
    House by collector John Goulding with regard to the condition of an antique onion bottle which he bought for £411


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    Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

    I had a very similar argument with a CAGER who insisted that an Auctioneer could not be held liable for selling an item that was mis-described in either their catalogue or their verbal description

    Although we argued about car auctions I maintained they could be held liable on the basis that a similar ruling in the case of a very major London auction house had a similar finding made against them about 20 years ago

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    • #3
      Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

      just an additional point here on the reporting of the case because the fact it was at county court level does not set a precedent.

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      • #4
        Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

        I agree Nattie, but it does show the tide is turning with terms and conditions in favour of the consumer.

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        • #5
          Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

          Caveat venditor Let the seller beware

          Like Caveat emptor "let the buyer beware" Caveat venditor is Latin for "let the seller beware". It is a counter to caveat emptor, and suggests that sellers too can be deceived in a market transaction. This forces the seller to take responsibility for the product, and discourages sellers from selling products of unreasonable quality.

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          • #6
            Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

            Originally posted by strangewayofsavin View Post
            I agree Nattie, but it does show the tide is turning with terms and conditions in favour of the consumer.
            Correct & I think you will find this very interesting reading.

            http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/elj/jilt/1997_3/white/

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            • #7
              Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

              Caveat emptor developed in medieval times well before the industrial revolution when the only things of any worth being exchanged or purchased was land, livestock or a horse.

              The courts, quite rightly, decided that if you, the buyer, couldn't tell if the land was barren or the horse lame & the livestock worthless then you had no right to be purchasing them in the 1st place.

              In other words the law was not intended to protect the plainly stupid hence Caveat emptor

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              • #8
                Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

                Nice link, but the point I think was, that no matter how it is written in ANY terms and conditons, if we feel there is a wrong doing then challenge it, most employers, or contract providers supply standard form contracts, contracts that are non negotiable before signing, therefore making many implied terms unenforceble in a court of law, because they breach Common, Statute, Employment or Tort law, let alone Health & safety or Human rights acts, whether it be a position of control/dominace, or just damn right taking the mick, fight it.

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                • #9
                  Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

                  I agree. I was merely pointing out the origins of Caveat emptor

                  However the courts are repeatedly taking the view that Caveat venditor (hence the word vendor)applies meaning Let the seller beware

                  Caveat venditor is of course also Latin & a counter to Caveat emptor, and suggests that sellers too can be deceived in a market transaction. This forces the seller to take responsibility for the product, and discourages sellers from selling products of unreasonable quality.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Caveat Emptor, failing as a defence

                    appologies, I should have read the thread thoroughly

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