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  • Council housing and discrimination

    Hi not sure if i am putting this in the correct place or not?

    For the first 29 years of my life i lived in a small village where most my family still live, i suffered with agoraphobia but was able to go out alone in the area where i lived and had a relatively normal life even though i had agoraphobia i was still able to function.
    I then had no choice but to move to a town as i could not find a landlord/lady in or near the area i use to live who would take housing benefit.
    Since moving to the town 9 years ago i have not been able to live my home on my own, not even in to the front garden, i have my sitting room at the back of my house and have the blinds at the front of the house closed due to so many people walking past my home and going to a busy shop across the road from me.
    Since moving to the town i have been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder, social phobia and OCD.
    I can no longer answer or use the phone to people i do not know well, i cant answer the front door or even go in the back garden on my own, i also do not feel safe in my home so i feel anxiety 24/7.
    Since moving here we have had 2 muggings in my street, one which was right outside my house, a arson attack to a shop and 3 police raids to the house next door so add that on to the anxiety i already feel.
    I have to rely on my husband to go out and get anything that we need and he has suffered with depression since moving here so at times he is too ill to go out.
    My family cannot give me support as my brother who is disabled has to park outside my house but due to the busy shop there are hardly ever any spaces, my father cannot help as we have parking restrictions in the road which only allows you to park for 5 mins outside the shop or up to an hour in a bay which are never empty, my father also has to take me to appointments as i and my husband do not drive and i find knowing i have to leave the house within 5 mins of my dad parking very stressful which adds to the anxiety i already feel.
    I have been assessed by ATOS and been placed in the support group and i receive DLA low care and mobility.

    2 years ago i went on the council housing list (The council gave their housing stock to a housing association ) to move back to the area in lived in and i have explained to the council that i find living here impossible, that it is too big, there are too many people, i do not feel safe going out and i will not be able to go out alone until i move back to a small village and can have support from my family.
    If i moved i would be in a small village that i know with less people and i would have my family for support and could go back to how i use to be.
    I provided supporting letters from my GP, 2 social workers, a mental health advocate, a CBT therapist and a psychiatrist all saying how severe my mental health is, how badly my housing effects it and that i am likely to improve if i was able to move.
    The councils medical panel ( a housing officer & a GP ) assessed me and said that i had a medium medical condition and a low effect on it from housing so only awarded me 30 medical points ( lowest they give )
    I appealed but was told it was staying the same.
    I was assessed again and told its staying the same so i asked my mental health advocate to ask how they made the decision and she was told they dont keep notes so i wrote a letter asking and i was sent a letter saying the panel believe it is not impossible for me to live here.

    A few months ago they changed from giving points to banding and i was assessed again so i sent in a 17 page letter explaining how my housing affects me and requested information from them on their housing stock and if they treat people with a physical condition differently to those with a mental health condition but they ignored my request.
    This is nothing new as when my psychiatrist wrote in a letter that 'she says moving back to the village she grew up in she would improve and this is likely' they put a restriction on me that i could only bid on properties in that village, i told them that i had not just said that village to him i had also mentioned other villages but hes not going to remember the names and that i can move to other villages where i would improve...they insisted a medical profession gave them a letter confirming what i said, i told them again that a medical profession would only be able to repeat what i tell them as only i know where i can move to and i would not bid on any properties in areas i would not improve in yet they would still not take my word for it and insisted on a letter from a medical profession like i was a complete loon who did not know my own mind.

    This last assessment i was told i am in band D as i have a low medical need to move, band D is the lowest band they have, i am now in the same band as people leaving prison, people who live with their mum and dad and want their own place and people who have to walk through one room to get to another, ALL these people would of had hardly any points so would of been on the list longer than me yet they will now be in front of me on the bidding list as it is now in order of time spent on the housing list, soo if i bid on a property it goes like this people in band a, band b, band c and those who have been on the list longer than me in band d then me.

    I am sure that they are treating me differently to a person with a physical condition that prevents them leaving their home without assistance.
    According to their policy the banding is not based on what is wrong with you but is based on how your housing effects your condition so in other words the outcome of it.
    I believe that i a person with a mental health condition who cannot leave their home without assistance should be placed in the same band as a person with a physical condition who cannot leave their home without assistance but i have a feeling that i have not been, i think those with a physical condition have been placed higher than me in the bands.

    According to the disability act a person with mental health problems and due to them they cannot carry out normal day to day activities should be classed as disabled and i do not think i am being.
    I also asked them if i would be considered for a over 55s bungalow as due to the social phobia i could not live in a flat, the two years on the list not one one bedroom house has been put up and most bungalows are for over 55s only, i also know they have under 55s with a disability living in over 55s only bungalows and want to be treated the same but they ignored me.

    I have tried reading through the disability discrimination act but i cant seem to get any info if it is discrimination to treat a person with a mental health condition less favorably than a person with a physical condition?

    I have just put in another request for information to them asking them to explain in full why they think its not impossible for me to live here, asking if i will be considered for a over 55s property, asking if they have anyone with a physical condition that prevents them leaving their home without assistance above me in the bands and i have put in a complaint that i was not sent the information the first time i asked.

    Any info or advice would be great please, i am also going through a ESA review so my anxiety is sky high and my advocate said she is only allowed to deal with one issue at a time and as shes trying to get me an appointment for another assessment with the mental health team she cant help me with ESA or the council. :tinysmile_cry_t:
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  • #2
    Re: Council housing and discrimination

    Mental heath issues can be very debilitating. There are some anomalies in your post, but it is for a professional organisation to deal with those. I would suggest you contact Mind, a charity who provide specialist help for people with mental health issues. Here is their website:

    http://www.mind.org.uk/

    :beagle:

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    • #3
      Re: Council housing and discrimination

      Although I think it would be an advantage for this issue to be explored via the forum, I definitely agree with labman on this (well, there's a first time for everything, isn't there! )

      To try and take on these monolithic & recalcitrant organisations by yourself will be akin to bashing your head against a brick wall.
      They seem to have an agenda, & the needs & rights of Jill & Joe Public doesn't figure very highly in it.
      CAVEAT LECTOR

      This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

      You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
      Cohen, Herb


      There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
      gets his brain a-going.
      Phelps, C. C.


      "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
      The last words of John Sedgwick

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      • #4
        Re: Council housing and discrimination

        Social housing is a complex beast and ,unfortunately,it's impossible to please all the people all the time.
        The 'leapfrogging' of the lists for various reasons has all but been demolished so it MAY be that you are viewed as adequately housed and therefore must basically 'wait your turn' And of course they are going to place people with physical disabilties in bungalows as they become available,thats not discrimination,,it's common sense.
        I don't believe there is any discrimination against someone with mental health issues (I may be wrong).
        Having family support in your chosen area will help but it may be that there are just no places available for your requirements.
        Contact Mind as advised above...and CAB.

        Good Luck

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        • #5
          Re: Council housing and discrimination

          As you and your husband are disabled you may be eligable for a blue badge . This can be used by your father when he comes to visit so that the 10 minute parking restrictions are waived . Check with thelcoal council for rules about parking on yellow lines . There are variations , however the normal one is that if there are no lines on the kerb then the blue badge user can park provided they are not otherwise causing an obstruction.

          As the others have said speak to mind and also see if there is a local advocacy group who may be better able to put your case to local officials.

          IF a member of your family has a large garden then a touring caravan may be a solution . It can have electricity and the chemical toilet but not a permanent running water connection . It must be to, use the jargon, "ancillary ot the enjoyment of the premises." Modern caravn are wam and comfortable and you can have a microwave and a gas cooker. It's really weather you could cope with going into the house for showers and to do your washing .
          Last edited by seduraed; 26th September 2013, 08:11:AM. Reason: spelling

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          • #6
            Re: Council housing and discrimination

            Unfortunately, the core objective of Social Housing is simply to provide essential accommodation. Tailoring it to the needs of specific individuals is something they may try to do, but it is not something they are obliged to do, if only because it is physically impossible to please everyone.

            Advice as per Labman.

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            • #7
              Re: Council housing and discrimination

              Are you telling them to get a blue badge for the father to use that's illegal?

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              • #8
                Re: Council housing and discrimination

                As you and your husband are disabled you may be eligable for a blue badge . This can be used by your father when he comes to visit so that the 10 minute parking restrictions are waived

                That is totally wrong information and would likely get a hefty fine if caught

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                • #9
                  Re: Council housing and discrimination

                  A Blue badge is solely for the use of the holder..NOT so people can use it where and when they like....any misuse of a Blue Badge is subject to a court case and a really hefty fine.
                  https://www.gov.uk/government/polici...e-badge-scheme

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                  • #10
                    Re: Council housing and discrimination

                    Well done Inca thought so

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                    • #11
                      Re: Council housing and discrimination

                      ....but the blue badge scheme applies to a person as driver or passenger. So if they are to be a passenger in fathers car the badge can be deployed for the purpose of picking them up, and then parking elsewhere. And no, I haven't looked up all the relevant legislation!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Council housing and discrimination

                        Des8 in your first post you said "the father could use it when he comes to visit"

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                        • #13
                          Re: Council housing and discrimination

                          Yes..the blue badge holder has to be either driving or passenger in the car..the badge cannot be used by anyone else,,and it doesn't apply to visiting the badge holder,doing jobs for the badge holder...the badge holder must always be in the car

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                          • #14
                            Re: Council housing and discrimination

                            Originally posted by wales01man View Post
                            Des8 in your first post you said "the father could use it when he comes to visit"
                            No I didn't....... that was seduraed

                            What I am saying is when OP is to be passenger in car eg when has to go to apptmt father could use blue badge to pick her up outside her house. That would SEEM to be within the spirit of the scheme, hence I said I had not checked the legislation.Not suggesting any use by others except when holder is present.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Council housing and discrimination

                              Des8s remark was what I meant the original poster badge to while she ld be eligible for a blue badge in their own right and then when her father comes to visit he can use the blue badge while the OP takes the time she needs to get to the car . I was not intending to imply that the badge be used improperly and if that is what my words have been interpreted as then I apologise .

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