Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

[ploddertom]

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I note you say you lost your deposit on a rented peoperty despite paying - care to expand? Was the deposit protected?

[bluebottle]

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Sadly as you say there are always two sides to a story, whilst I agree that you have been badly treated sometimes you have to realize when you are banging your head against a brick wall. I cannot see how ultimately you would not just receive duplicates of the responses you have already had. Of course if it makes you feel better to write a few letters and get it of your chest.

In my view it is better concentrating on what can be achieved, I do not believe any judge would find that your medals and goods should not be your property, personally I would start a civil claim and get my stuff back.
Whatever you do, let us know how you get on

Recovery of personal items can be achieved via Civil Law procedures. However, the issue of the police officer's conduct and the manner in which their senior officers handled the matter is something that needs to be dealt with by the IPCC and the Home Office.

[gravytrain]

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Recovery of personal items can be achieved via Civil Law procedures. However, the issue of the police officer's conduct and the manner in which their senior officers handled the matter is something that needs to be dealt with by the IPCC and the Home Office.

Yes if that is what the OP wants by all means write to the IPCC home office his MP his Councillor, as said, please let us know how you get on.

[ric1978]

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Follow the advice given by Bluebottle.

Contacting your MP might also be worth a shot, as might be contacting the prospective opposition candidate in the current Home Secretary's constituency.

Enquirer - thankyou i will do just this and write to my local MP here in kent and also the opposition candidate as mentioned

[ric1978]

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Recovery of personal items can be achieved via Civil Law procedures. However, the issue of the police officer's conduct and the manner in which their senior officers handled the matter is something that needs to be dealt with by the IPCC and the Home Office.

BB - I am going to pursue every avenue, i retained all correspondence and dates and timings of everything which has occurred, my only barrier is the wording and how i structure this for maximum attention.
Would it be myself who makes a recommendation through the IPCC for the attention of the Home Office or can i and how do i contact them direct? Thankyou for your continued, time and useful advice

[ric1978]

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Yes if that is what the OP wants by all means write to the IPCC home office his MP his Councillor, as said, please let us know how you get on.

GT - This is something to which i want escalating, i have fortunately replaced my possessions but what i cannot replace is my medals nor can ignore the fact that this so called Police Officer can act in this way and nothing be done about it. What faith can we have in justice if it is not fair and equal when the officer and force of this particular station treat cases like this, innocent people like myself suffer as a consequence so what chance does anyone else get.

Thankyou for your continued comments, time and support

[ric1978]

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I note you say you lost your deposit on a rented peoperty despite paying - care to expand? Was the deposit protected?

Hi, yes the deposit was in the scheme through the estate agents, i was arrested in the november and went to a bail address, throughout this time i paid my half of the rent, this was for a total of three months as the judge said i could not live their, the lease was due to be renewed in april but due to not living their they managed to rent it out in the february.
Because she did not pay any rent and when i asked them an explanation they said that she could not afford it. The deposit i paid for on my debit card and have that proof, but she knew by not paying that they would just deduct it, the estate agents were useless as they just took the balance from the deposit and sent a cheque to her with the remainder, it beggars belief.

[ric1978]

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If anyone else has any advice it would be greatly appreciated and received, i will keep this thread updated and all who have contributed

[Charlie505]

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Having just read this I find it absolutely extraordinary and you must be under huge stress as a result. I agree with much of what has been said. Might I suggest:

1. If you have any home contents insurance still in force from the time of the incident there may well be legal cover included which would allow you to take action.
2. Contact the Cotizens Advice Bureau - amongst other things ask about legal aid
3. Often a solicitor will give a first consultation free
4. The most compelling thing you have said (to me as a reader) were your comments about attending the Cenotaph without your medals. You need to stick to your strongest suit, rather than anything that could allow a counter argument of 'there's another side to the story'. So perhaps you might write to the Chief Constable with a very simple and heartfelt request that he should ask your former partner to give you back your medals.
5. Write to the Rt Hon Andrew Rowbathan MP - who is Minister of State for the Armed forces - again I would focus on the medals
6. Enlist the support of a local journalist - visit the offices and invite one out for coffee (I am not sure whether it works for a private matter but I do it all the time in corporate media relations).

Good luck and very best wishes

[bluebottle]

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BB - I am going to pursue every avenue, i retained all correspondence and dates and timings of everything which has occurred, my only barrier is the wording and how i structure this for maximum attention.
Would it be myself who makes a recommendation through the IPCC for the attention of the Home Office or can i and how do i contact them direct? Thankyou for your continued, time and useful advice

I would suggest that you download the necessary form from the IPCC's website, complete and return with as much evidence as possible. The more evidence you can send them, the better. Remember that something you may consider irrelevant or insignificant may well prove to be a very important piece of evidence. Always send copies and advise the IPCC you have the originals in your possession and will produce these at any court or police conduct tribunal hearing should this become necessary.

I would write to the Home Secretary, ccing to -

Damian Green (Policing Minister)
Mark Sedwill (Permanent Secretary)
Stephen Rimmer (Director General, Crime and Policing Group)

summarising your case and pointing out that you have referred the matter of the police officer's conduct and the police force's failure to properly investigate and deal with the matter to the IPCC. Include a statement in your letter that you can provide copies of evidence to the Home Office should they require this. However, please be aware that the IPCC is part of the Home Office and that they may or may not refer the matter to the Home Office.

When addressing any correspondence to a Secretary of State, the salutation should be "Secretary of State", not "Dear Home Secretary". The address block should be -

The Rt Hon Theresa May MP
Secretary of State for Home Affairs
Home Office
2 Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DF

Hope this helps.

[CleverClogs]

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When addressing any correspondence to a Secretary of State, the salutation should be "Secretary of State", not "Dear Home Secretary".

Rather than Mad Madame Mim?

[bluebottle]

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I wonder how long it will take the tabloids and other websites to start calling Theresa May "Mad Madam Mim"? I have to agree with you, CC, that there is more than a passing resemblance. :biggrin1:

[gravytrain]

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Ric are your medals still in the hands of your ex ?

[ric1978]

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Charlie - Thankyou so so much, please do not underestimate the gratitude to yourself and others who have helped, i will keep this thread updated with progress and responses

[ric1978]

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[QUOTE=gravytrain;330745]Ric are your medals still in the hands of your ex ?[/QUOTE

GT - I am unsure all i can do is presume at this moment, sorry i just dont know