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  • Arrow Court case-Help please

    Hi All,


    Arrow submitted a claim to CC in Feb '12;


    Particulars of claim


    The claimants claim is for the balance due under an agreement which is now all due and payable.


    The defendant agreed to pay monthly instalments under account number ******* but has failed to do so.


    And the claimant claims the sum of ****.**


    The claimant also claims interest thereon pursuant to S.69 county court act 1984 limited to one year to the date hereof at the rate of 8% per annum amounting to 0.00



    My original defence was;


    The defendant has minimal knowledge of the amount claimed by the
    claimant and requires strict proof thereof.


    The claimant refuses to use the defendants new address, despite a
    letter informing them of my new address, I believe this is an
    abuse of court process.


    A CCA request has already been sent on 02/03/2012 - and still
    remains unfulfilled by the claimant, thus bringing the account
    into dispute.


    Documents relied on in the claim were not produced with the claim
    so a CPR request, which also remains unfulfilled was sent to them
    on 02/03/2012, as they should have had this paperwork prior to the
    claim NO extension to produce the required paperwork should be
    allowed.



    The case proceeded and aq's were received and a call with mediation took place. I stated in section G of the Ag's that "without production of the requested documents, I am at a disadvantage and am unable to serve a proper defence."


    The court then made an written order that Arrow file and serve:


    i) copy of the credit agreement and any document referred to within it;
    ii) default notice;
    iii) evidence of assignment
    iv) notice of assignment
    v) first and last pages of the statement of account relied upon


    They missed the deadline so I wrote requesting it be struck out, the court extended the deadline by another month, they missed this too so I wrote again, this time the court issued an unless order. I have now received some paperwork from Arrow as below;




    1) The internet application form which forms the agreement (I'm sure it's nothing like an agreement, it has no date, no signature etc, happy to post it up)


    2) Statements covering 1 year


    3) A template NoA assigning from Egg to Barclays


    4)Reconstituted NoA from Barclays to Arrow.


    The letter also said they are still waiting for the Default Notice, but are confident it's forthcoming.


    The court has now ordered;


    1) The defence stand struck out as disclosing no reasonable ground for defending the claim;


    2) Time to file an adequate defence extended to........


    3) Defendant to state whether he admits or denies claim in whole or part and if denied state why.




    In summary, they are still in default of my CCA request, there is no default notice nor proper agreement. As far as I can see they have not complied properly with the 'Unless Order' yet my defence now stands struck out.


    How can I defend properly when I still need the documents I originally asked for at the start of the claim. I'm stuck as to what direction to take now and would really appreciate some help.


    Many Thanks
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  • #2
    Re: Arrow Court case-Help please

    did they comply with the last unless order within the times set by the court

    we just do another defence with a draft order for directions

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    • #3
      Re: Arrow Court case-Help please

      Hi, thanks for your reply,

      They complied within time, just, but didn't comply fully with what was ordered, IE there is no credit agreement or default notice. I have the option of applying to the court asking that the order be set aside or stayed or varied if I object to it.

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      • #4
        Re: Arrow Court case-Help please

        why did you not object to the court when the supplied the docs and that they had not complied with the unless order

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        • #5
          Re: Arrow Court case-Help please

          I only just received the docs from the court today, the new order came with them.

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          • #6
            Re: Arrow Court case-Help please

            strange the court would issue an order to strike out your defence when you have had no chance to see if they have complied with your request and court directions

            see if you get more comments but i would object to the order in that they have not complied fully with the court directions and request a strike out

            why the hell are they being given so much time by the court to locate these documents

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            • #7
              Re: Arrow Court case-Help please

              Thanks, I have written to them asking that the last order be set aside and the claim be struck out as per the unless order.

              I did some research and quoted a bit of case law in the letter;

              Marcan Shipping (London) Ltd v Candida Corpn and another
              [2007] EWCA Civ 463

              In particular paragraph 34 and 35;

              34;

              In my view it should now be clearly recognised that the sanction embodied in an "unless" order in traditional form takes effect without the need for any further order if the party to whom it is addressed fails to comply with it in any material respect. This has a number of consequences, to three of which I think it is worth drawing particular attention. The first is that it is unnecessary, and indeed inappropriate, for a party who seeks to rely on non-compliance with an order of that kind to make an application to the court for the sanction to be imposed or, as the judge put it, "activated". The sanction prescribed by the order takes effect automatically as a result of the failure to comply with its terms. If an application to enter judgment is made under rule 3.5(5), the court's function is limited to deciding what order should properly be made to reflect the sanction which has already taken effect. Unless the party in default has applied for relief, or the court itself decides for some exceptional reason that it should act of its own initiative, the question whether the sanction ought to apply does not arise. It must be assumed that at the time of making the order the court considered all the relevant factors and reached the decision that the sanction should take effect in the event of default. If it is thought that the court should not have made an order in those terms in the first place, the right course is to challenge it on appeal, but it may often be better to make all reasonable efforts to comply and to seek relief in the event of default.

              35;

              The second consequence, which follows from the first, is that the party in default must apply for relief from the sanction under rule 3.8 if he wishes to escape its consequences. Although the court can act of its own motion, it is under no duty to do so and the party in default cannot complain if he fails to take appropriate steps to protect his own interests. Any application of this kind must deal with the matters which the court is required by rule 3.9 to consider.

              Should the court reject this, which I expect they will I'll hopefully be able to fall back on a new defence.

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