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  • Taking Deliveroo to court?

    Hoping to get a bit of a steer if I can take deliveroo to court.

    Deliveroo cyclist damaged my car, whilst cycling wrong way up a one way road and then ran off. Damage around £1k. Later that evening I found the same cyclist, managed to get his rider ID but he refused to give name etc and ran away again.

    Raised this will Deliveroo, who made me fill in a form, and passed me onto their 3rd party company called collective benefits.

    Collective benefits emailed me: "I wanted to confirm that we have your third party claim form and are waiting for Deliveroo to confirm the riders details. Once we have these we will then pass your claim to our Claims Handling specialist. The Claims handlers will be in touch with you shortly and may require further detailed information. At this time we are not able to comment on liability, just whilst we complete our investigations. However, if you have any queries in the meantime then please feel free to reply to this email address."

    They then passed me onto Zurich "Good afternoon. Thank you for the notification. We are in the process of chasing a formal report of the same from our insured’s cyclist via their brokers, as under the terms and conditions of this policy: We cannot get involved until we have this in writing from them. There is a strict £150.00 excess for all Deliveroo cyclists/riders that is payable to the claimant or their insurers subject to claims cost and liability. Just for the file in the event they do report this to us, please provide colour photos of the damage and the repair account for the damage or two independent quotes."

    I gave Zurich the details filled in their form, gave them the dashcam footage, pictures etc. I chased a few times, and almost a year later they said
    "The rider has not responded and we have now denied cover under the policy. Please accept my apologises that we were unable to resolve this for you. Our file is now closed."

    I asked Zurich for the riders details as I only had the rider ID and they said " Zurich are not the data owners or the custodians of this information, and we do not have permission to share this information with you. The riders are self-employed. As previously advised that the policy is just a benefit policy to provide the rider with cover should he be involved in an accident with a member of the public. He has to meet the conditions of the policy and as previously advised he has not confirmed he was involved and given us permission to deal with your claim".

    Sounds like a dead end, getting nowhere at all. Rider has buried their head in the sand and not responding. I then raised a letter before claim to deliveroo and this was their response

    "In your email you assert that you believe Deliveroo is responsible for the alleged incident. Please note that any claim against Deliveroo would be misconceived as riders in the UK are engaged as self-employed independent contractors and provide services to Deliveroo (and other platforms) on their own account. The status of Deliveroo riders has been considered by the UK courts, with the UK Supreme Court confirming last year that riders are not in an employment relationship with Deliveroo. It therefore follows that Deliveroo is not, and cannot be, liable (either by way of vicarious liability or otherwise) for the acts and/or omissions of the riders it engages with. As such, to the extent that a rider is responsible for any loss or damage to your vehicle, such a claim falls to the rider personally (to the extent that insurance coverage has been declined) and not Deliveroo. For the avoidance of any doubt, liability for the alleged incident is not admitted."


    My question
    -Can I actually raise a small courts claim against Deliveroo, or will I most likely lose the claim?




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  • #2
    I cannot answer the question but I have seen delivery drivers in court for no insurance because they did not have business cover on their personal car insurance...

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    • #3
      I think you were advised of most options possibly open to you on Pistonheads.

      You might consider filing a claim in county court against Deliveroo &/or Zurich for your £1000.
      Probably unlikely to win, but due to their inability to recover their costs in a small claims track case they might take a pragmatic commercial decision to come to a compromise agreement before the hearing.

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      • #4
        Have you tried to get the rider's identity from Deliveroo? Being self employed contractors still.means they are in a contractual relationship with Deliveroo so Deliveroo are the data processor/controller of the information they hold about the rider's ID.

        I would have thought that under data protection law you have a legitimate reason for Deliveroo to release this to you but perhaps speak to the ICO and see what they say.

        Then you can sue the rider direct.

        I realise that may just bring more problems on trying to enforce if you get judgement, but actually if nothing else leaving the rider with a CCJ that will b*gger their credit record for 6 years may give you some satisfaction and potentially caused them a lot of problems.
        All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
          Have you tried to get the rider's identity from Deliveroo? Being self employed contractors still.means they are in a contractual relationship with Deliveroo so Deliveroo are the data processor/controller of the information they hold about the rider's ID.

          I would have thought that under data protection law you have a legitimate reason for Deliveroo to release this to you but perhaps speak to the ICO and see what they say.

          Then you can sue the rider direct...

          This ^^^ is probably your best course of action.

          If you need to ID somebody in order to sue them I don't thing Deliveroo can hide behind GDPR.

          Presumably you didn't want to claim from your own insurance, but did you inform them of the accident for information only? It's just that if you do end up suing anybody it might get awkward if your insurer finds out and wonders why you didn't inform them. Indeed, the person you sue might tell them...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Manxman View Post


            This ^^^ is probably your best course of action.

            If you need to ID somebody in order to sue them I don't thing Deliveroo can hide behind GDPR.

            Presumably you didn't want to claim from your own insurance, but did you inform them of the accident for information only? It's just that if you do end up suing anybody it might get awkward if your insurer finds out and wonders why you didn't inform them. Indeed, the person you sue might tell them...
            A record of the incident is probably already on data bases as Zurich are aware of it

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            • #7
              -Can I actually raise a small courts claim against Deliveroo, or will I most likely lose the claim?
              Yes, you can raise a claim but you will ultimately lose. The question will likely be how much costs you are required to pay Deliveroo for wasting everyone's time. The Supreme Court recently confirmed that Deliveroo riders are self-employed and as such any claim would have to be made against the rider. In theory, Deliveroo could be held vicariously liable for self-employed contractors but only if those riders are not genuinely self-employed - given the Supreme Court case, I think you would have next to no chance of arguing anything differently.

              Most companies have a blanket policy of not providing information under the GDPR to third parties despite there being an exemption where the information is required as part of legal proceedings. Most likely the OP will have to make a pre-action disclosure request at their own expense (unless you can successfully argue that Deliveroo were unreasonable in their request to provide information) and then claim the added expense from the rider as part of the wider legal proceedings.
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              • #8
                Have you contacted the police?

                I'm sure the rider would speedily provide the details with their involvement.

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                • #9
                  okay thanks.

                  Given that Deliveroo won't give me the riders details to raise a claim, I've only got the riders name and number, could I raise a claim


                  RIDERS NAME
                  RIDERS NUMBER
                  DELIVEROO ADDRESS

                  or would this fall foul of court rules?

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                  • #10
                    What reason did Deliveroo give for refusing to.identify the rider?

                    Did you contact ICO as suggested?
                    All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by theduckaroo View Post
                      okay thanks.

                      Given that Deliveroo won't give me the riders details to raise a claim, I've only got the riders name and number, could I raise a claim


                      RIDERS NAME
                      RIDERS NUMBER
                      DELIVEROO ADDRESS

                      or would this fall foul of court rules?
                      Have you searched for his address under his name?
                      (providing you have the full name)
                      He's bound to be local.

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