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  • Is the Judge correct in this case?.

    I have just come across this article, and the Judge has decided to throw out common law and use the Law of the Sea.
    Does anyone with knowledge of common law know if he is right to do this?

    Man who refused to register son's birth loses high court case

    This article is more than 1 year old



    Father said he did not want his baby to be controlled by the British state
    Matthew Weaver
    Sun 23 Jun 2019 16.56 BST
    A man who refused to register his son’s birth because he says he does not want him to be controlled by the state has lost a high court case.
    Tower Hamlets social services, the London council which has responsibility for the baby’s welfare, asked a high court judge to intervene in the case after the man and his partner, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, failed to register the child’s birth earlier this year.

    Mr Justice Hayden ruled the council had the right to step in as the child’s “institutional parent” to register the birth.
    The judge considered the issue at a private hearing earlier this month in the family division of the high court in London and outlined his decision in a written ruling published online.

    The child, referred to in the case only as T, is currently the subject of a care order while his parents are “subject to a residential assessment”.
    The judge was told that the couple’s parenting skills were being assessed before decisions about the boy’s long-term future were made. He also noted that the father’s behaviour towards a judge in the family court resulted in a prison sentence for him and his partner.
    Hayden said the couple’s deliberate decision not to register the birth stemmed from the boy’s father’s unusual and somewhat eccentric beliefs about the concept of personal sovereignty. He said the boy’s mother was not prepared to register the birth herself, but was not opposed to somebody else registering it.
    He said the father had a genuinely held belief in the power and writ of the individual. The father told the judge: “We are each our own sovereign. We are governed by a common law but only to the extent that we depart from three principles. These three imperatives are: to do no harm; to cause no loss; to inflict no injury.”
    The judge said the father regarded registering a birth as the equivalent of making an entry on to a ship’s manifest. He argued that registering the birth would make the child “an asset to the country, which has boarded a vessel to sail on the high seas”.
    The judge added the essence of the father’s objection was “his belief that registration will cause his son to become controlled by a state which he perceives to be authoritarian and capricious”.
    Hayden pointed out that the 1953 Births and Deaths Registration Act required a birth to be registered within 42 days of a child being born.
    He ruled: “It is manifestly in T’s best interest for his birth to be registered, in order that he may be recognised as a citizen and entitled to the benefits of such citizenship.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rth-high-court






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  • #2
    Well common sense tells me the judge was correct. It sounds like another wonderful freeman on the land type asserting his "superior legal knowledge"

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    • #3
      wonderful freeman on the land AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

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      • #4
        wonderful in the (sarcastic) sense of good for a laugh

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        • #5
          Seems that my first post received a few replies which were sarcastic and from those who know nothing about Common Law etc. Shame really, I expected at least an intelligent discussion on the subject.

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          • #6
            Apologies Epsom but this did it for me:
            Hayden said the couple’s deliberate decision not to register the birth stemmed from the boy’s father’s unusual and somewhat eccentric beliefs about the concept of personal sovereignty. He said the boy’s mother was not prepared to register the birth herself, but was not opposed to somebody else registering it. He said the father had a genuinely held belief in the power and writ of the individual. The father told the judge: “We are each our own sovereign. We are governed by a common law but only to the extent that we depart from three principles. These three imperatives are: to do no harm; to cause no loss; to inflict no injury.”

            Births must be registered. As the Judge said: “It is manifestly in T’s best interest for his birth to be registered, in order that he may be recognised as a citizen and entitled to the benefits of such citizenship.”

            I do not think the Judge has applied the law of the sea - this was the Father's point of view "The judge said the father regarded registering a birth as the equivalent of making an entry on to a ship’s manifest. He argued that registering the birth would make the child “an asset to the country, which has boarded a vessel to sail on the high seas”.

            As I read it the Judge has applied the Law correctly but what do I know??!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by epsom View Post
              Seems that my first post received a few replies which were sarcastic and from those who know nothing about Common Law etc. Shame really, I expected at least an intelligent discussion on the subject.
              I'm afraid you won't find an intelligent discussion here because the freeman of the land verbiage is absolute rubbish and don't understand the concept of common law, or the laws of this country. Rather they would place their reliance on some outdated law that has been superseded or revoked and bury their heads in the sand when proven wrong.

              Suggest you have a discussion with other like-minded people who believe in that nonsense as I'm sure there's forums like that out there on the web. This forum is intended to deal with people who believe in and accept the rule of law, rather than those who think they can pick and choose what laws of this land should apply to them.
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              • #8
                Doesn't statute law trump common law?

                Also I believe the original Magna Carta (which I know you haven't mentioned) was rescinded and what it was replaced with has almost all been repealed.

                To me it makes complete sense for the judge to rule the way they did.

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