An interesting one, maybe

[Curlyben]

.... Or is CB just being a burger


Right, this is more of an exercise in DPA than anything else, but I welcome any comments/suggestions.

Now my company wants to introduce parking permits to use the site car park.
Now I can understand this, but to be supplied with a permit I must show my drivers licence AND insurance documents, which they will then copy and place in my HR file.

Now obviously I don't want this to happen as I believe it is a breach of my privacy and is NOT a requirement of my employment, after all I'm an IT manager and NOT a professional driver.

So I was thinking of using DPA to stop this happening as the contraol of personal data is pitiful to say the least. If these documents were to fall into the wrong hands then who knows what could happen.

I can think of NO requirements in employment or health & safety law that would require me to prove I can legally drive my car.

So I'm think an s10 here (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/ukpga_19980029_en_3#pt2-l1g10)

After all if this information was "lost" then who knows what.

would s10 be of use here to assert my rights to them NOT taking a physical copy of my information.
I don't mind them seeing it, but I draw the line at a copy.

So come on, I'm in a bolshe mood

[Amethyst]

Re: An interesting one, maybe

Do you work for a big company ?

ie. would it cause any problems if you make a malarky out of it

(I do agree with u tho)

[Paule]

Re: An interesting one, maybe

The only reason i can see is to ensure that if there are any vehicular incidents, that the driver of the car has valid documents and that the company can provide documents to the authorities if necessary.

Do the employees have a habit of crashing their cars in the car park.

I would be very wary of this though and i think i would be asking questions as to why they need a record of the info, fair enough just showing it to obtain the permit initially, as then it could be seen that they are discouraging staff to drive illegally

PKea

[Curlyben]

Re: An interesting one, maybe

I work for a global company, but my division is only about 80 people.

PK, while I can see what you are saying about liability in the case of an accident, this is far outside of any companies remit of employment, surely.

I like to kick up a stink about these sort of things were I believe our rights are being abused.

I had a similar run in were they tried to mandate when staff could have a smoke break.
Now I don't have any sort of set break time, nor even a lunch break, and yet they attempted to say that any time I had for smoking would be made up later in the day.

Well I believed that this was unreasonable, and refsued to sign the adjustment.
I made it very clear that should they wish to mandate this I would happily take it to tribunal

[Guest]

Re: An interesting one, maybe

You do not have any rights in relation to smoke breaks. An employee who works more than six hours per day has the statutory right to a rest break of at least 20 minutes away from their workstation under the Working Time Regulations 1998 and you must not be prevented from having your break, but that is all. Should you take extra breaks to smoke, it is entirely reasonable that you make up that time. A tribunal would not find for you in these circumstances. (See Dryden v. Greater Glasgow Health Board 1992)

As for the purpose of your post I fail to see what you hope to achieve. If you object to providing the information they request then you will not have a parking permit issued to you - how much do you want the permit?

[Curlyben]

Re: An interesting one, maybe

What I object to is them taking a copy of my information to go in my file.
As I already mentioned, I don't have any issue with them confirming the required documentation exists.

I know for a fact that the way personal information is dealt with is absolutely shocking and private documents regularly "go missing". Hence wanting to safe guard yet more of it.

[stevokenevo]

Re: An interesting one, maybe

where did i read the thread about 'crown copyright'? was it on here?

something to do with photocopying drivers licence or passports etc, who can/cant do it and why.

will have a scout about for it and see if it is relevant.

I agree, and would not like my details stored on file, for what purpose?

so that if someone complains you scratched their car (which you didnt of course) HR can did out your insurance details and pass them on? That wouldnt work would it.

If it is proof they need, what do the post office do when you go in for a tax disc? they look at the documents, check them for authenticity if required and certify they have been provided. They dont feel the need to copy them and store said copy.

I would certainly argue if it was me in your shoes CB