Life after gross misconduct

[Mr $quandaŁot]

Getting fired due to gross misconduct is something that many think does not happen very often.

You only need to have worked in a financial institution to realise that disciplinary hearings and alleged gross misconducts are not unknown at all!

The problem here is that, in many cases, decisions taken by employers are borderline at the best. For example, would 'failing to follow the company procedures' count as gross misconduct if those procedures were not clear in the first place? Or could posting the company logo on your personal website for portfolio purposes be wrong to the extent that the trust between the employer and employee has been broken?

However, I am rather interested in people who been sacked on grounds of gross misconduct. What happens after? Are they able to claim the social benefits they have contributed for by paying national insurance contributions? What about the reference and find a new job? Is it at all possible?

Unless you happen to know someone who has been sacked for gross misconduct, you rarely hear any after stories online. Any experiences or thoughts?

[Mr $quandaŁot]

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Does lack of replies mean that getting fired on grounds of gross misconduct really is the end ie people end up insane or even taking their own lives?

[Kati]

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Hi @Mr $quandaŁot ... I'm sure that you will get replies now that the Christmas/New Year is over LB has been pretty quiet recently, but is getting back to normal again now.
K x

[teaboy2]

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Plus don't forget the employment section is not the busiest section of this forum either. Some days you get two or three people creating threads, others you don't get any new threads. But it is getting there!

[spirit2534]

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I suppose that Money Claims are the "bread & butter of LB, but many people are faced with legal problems in other areas of their life.

Certainly many don't have employment issues at all but for those that do it can be a significant headache.

If you lose a Money Claim then you might get an additional expense to add to your bills, but to lose your job might mean a very reduced incme. This is especially true if you have been in highly paid job for some time or you are getting near the end of your working years.:tinysmile_cry_t:

[Amethyst]

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[MENTION=8640]leclerc[/MENTION] xx

[leclerc]

Re: Life after gross misconduct

Getting fired due to gross misconduct is something that many think does not happen very often.

You only need to have worked in a financial institution to realise that disciplinary hearings and alleged gross misconducts are not unknown at all
Tick the box on this one.

The problem here is that, in many cases, decisions taken by employers are borderline at the best. For example, would 'failing to follow the company procedures' count as gross misconduct if those procedures were not clear in the first place?
Mine was clear cut.

Or could posting the company logo on your personal website for portfolio purposes be wrong to the extent that the trust between the employer and employee has been broken?
I can explain the timeline of how I got done if you want me to(but not sure I'll do it with pictures on here )?
However, I am rather interested in people who been sacked on grounds of gross misconduct. What happens after?
I worked for NatWest Bank and in February 2009 after having been suspended for approximately 3 weeks I was called into Bury St Edmonds Branch. The branch manager there was my first ever line manager and acted as my representative even though I went there to be sacked. So meeting over and I was sacked. First thing they did was take my tie off me and I'd brought back spare uniform I had as I knew it was over. I went downstairs to the branch as it had already closed. I downgraded my advantage gold account as it was free to staff at the time and I was never gonna pay for an account I had. The next thing I did was to get expenses for going to the meeting but they didn't pay the return cos I had been sacked.

Are they able to claim the social benefits they have contributed for by paying national insurance contributions?

I went to the Job Centre as I was indeed eligible for benefits because I was kicked out of the firm rather than resigned(I had done but they had not accepted that). At the time, I was eligible for Jobseekers allowance and Local Housing Allowance(as I was in private rented accomodation).

What about the reference and find a new job?
I was open with the reasons I had for my dismissal and gave RBS Group as the reference point. I don't know what they wrote to the employee because I never asked to see them.

Is it at all possible?

Yes it is possible but whether they give you a reference is up the company.

Unless you happen to know someone who has been sacked for gross misconduct, you rarely hear any after stories online. Any experiences or thoughts?

Ok, I was sacked in February 2009(search for natweststaffmember on here for the reasons). I cancelled mobile phone contract post sacking, I applied for a lot of jobs and had second interviews that looked hopeful but failed to materialise. Ultimately, I went around all the job agencies and was even rang up by someone offering an interview for a job. Realistically I lost one job opportunity because of the sacking but as I was about to consider leaving my home and going back to my mother's because of the issue of money, I found a temp job cleaning at a department at Cambridge University. A month or two later I got a second job as the first one was part time. I left Cambridge University job and worked at the NHS hospital full time where I had found my other job. About 18 month later, I took redundancy from the NHS Hospital and went back to the Department at Cambridge University and a month later started working for a private cleaning company. I work for both places and am a cleaning supervisor for my evening job and deputise for my boss in my department job.

Key things to remember with a GM on your record.
1) You will struggle to find a job if you have any pending court action(the bank threatened me but there was nothing that I had done that could be claimed in the civil court).
2) Make sure your version of what happened has a positive but contrite response, ie broke the rules and was rightly sacked(even if that bit you don't believe).
3) Stay positive because otherwise GM will destroy you and not improve you