Manager has banned us from using air con

[des8]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

there are also rules on the lighting values if I am not mistaken.

HSG38 sets out minimum lighting standards, but levels are low

[wales01man]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

Just take the tape off and turn it on ?

[leclerc]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

im sure ive seen in my contract "any other duties..." but shes suggesting as im mopping the floor she wants my to dry with a cloth aswell. she keeps on saying about all the changes thats how things are done in her previous store!

Drying the floor with towels or cloths, I think is going a bit too far imho. If you're mopping the floor at the end of the door then surely it can dry on its own overnight.


no one has any problems with general cleaning duties like emptying the bin,hoover, mop, etcc its just she wants us to them her way. i said we have had so many cleaners and i have never seen any of them dry the floor after mopping except they put does bright yellow warning signs that the floor is wet! this manager is just a major pain in the neck.


I would say that other duties.... would not cover drying the floor as no cleaner does that(I know cos that is the job I do ).


as she wants save more costs by getting rid of the cleaner soon, she is hinting to me she wants me to use the buffing machine to buff the floor. i have no experience or intentions of learning to use the buffer. she can stick her job up you know where!

If she wants you to buff the floor then she can pay for you to learn how to do that because if you mess that up then the company will have an additional expense of replacing the floor.
Not sure I like your manager...

[righty]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

Any person using a buffing machine has to have been trained in it's use particularly as it has a unguarded primary mover (the rotating brushes) which could cause injury to anyone nearby

She sounds like a bitch

[Steven5]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

Just take the tape off and turn it on ?

What and face a disciplinary

[Johnboy007]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

Under the Health & Safety at Work Act 1974, the employer has a duty of care to his employees.
If you look at the link it will explain it all in detail.
If your health is suffering as a result of not be able to use the air conditioning, then you should lodge a 'grievance' (complaint) with your company, pointing out this legislation.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/37/section/2

[wales01man]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

If there are more than one employed when the air con is turned on who will face a disciplinary ?

If its that bad there under this new manager all of you should make a stand against her complain collectively higher up in the chain of command.

[Steven5]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

She will check CCTV to see who turned it back on.

everyone is unhappy with her actions so far hence why I am on this forum getting all research before we/I complain.

[leclerc]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

She will check CCTV to see who turned it back on.

everyone is unhappy with her actions so far hence why I am on this forum getting all research before we/I complain.

If she checks CCTV then she may be in breach of your employment rights, ie oversupervision. Furthermore, she would have to be very careful over the use of CCTV considering that it is not looking into a matter related to theft.

[wales01man]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

I should complain sooner than later if you are all not happy with her tell HR or a higher manager seems like this is one hell of a bitch trying to make her mark.

[Kati]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

Any person using a buffing machine has to have been trained in it's use particularly as it has a unguarded primary mover (the rotating brushes) which could cause injury to anyone nearby

She sounds like a bitch

Health and Safety in the workplace?? :tinysmile_twink_t2:

What and face a disciplinary

it might be worth a try anyway What's she going to do ... tell her superiors she is stopping you all having adequate lighting?? - If you're worried that she'll check CCTV, get a group of you to stand around the light switch to 'hide' who actually does the deed

[des8]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

- If you're worried that she'll check CCTV, get a group of you to stand around the light switch to 'hide' who actually does the deed

wear a mask?

[meellis]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

This manager, like everybody needs to know there are consequences to any decision made. If this is a shop will the savings made from not using the air-con counter the potential loss of customers due to a stuffy, smelly shop. Some air conditioning systems are not only there to cool or heat the premises they also supply cleaner fresher air and expel dirty air. If I remember rightly it has been proven that people are more productive in a cleaner fresher environment with the right ambient temperature, not stifling or freezing. That said there are a lot of people who need to understand that just because a building is heated it is not an excuse to have the temperature of the Caribbean in the middle of winter so you can carry on working in shorts, unless that's what the job dictates. We all need to save resources but we also need to concentrate sourcing more and newer resources. Like the government this manager needs to understand that you can't just save you have to encourage growth as well.

[seduraed]

Re: Manager has banned us from using air con

Sounds like you need to get together and joiin a union if you're in retail then /USDAW would be the best . All join at the same time and I if a large enough percentage of the workforce join they can get the Union recognised .

[FlamingParrot]

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If she checks CCTV then she may be in breach of your employment rights, ie oversupervision. Furthermore, she would have to be very careful over the use of CCTV considering that it is not looking into a matter related to theft.

According to the ICO, employers are apparently allowed to monitor as much as they want, even without your knowledge. The question put to them was not about CCTV as such but about something in a similar vein.

This manager, like everybody needs to know there are consequences to any decision made. If this is a shop will the savings made from not using the air-con counter the potential loss of customers due to a stuffy, smelly shop. Some air conditioning systems are not only there to cool or heat the premises they also supply cleaner fresher air and expel dirty air. If I remember rightly it has been proven that people are more productive in a cleaner fresher environment with the right ambient temperature, not stifling or freezing. That said there are a lot of people who need to understand that just because a building is heated it is not an excuse to have the temperature of the Caribbean in the middle of winter so you can carry on working in shorts, unless that's what the job dictates. We all need to save resources but we also need to concentrate sourcing more and newer resources. Like the government this manager needs to understand that you can't just save you have to encourage growth as well.

ABSOLUTELY! And customers also feel more relaxed at the right temperature. I often find supermarkets too cold in the summer when I'm in my summer clothes and I don't want to spend too much time in there for that reason.
This whole saga reminds me of an episode of Are You Being Served where Grace Brothers switch off the heating in the middle of winter!