Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

[wales01man]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

Is it worth all the fuss?
if the laws says 2 hours and they refuse to pay what next?

[vanman]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

On I lighter side maybe she not going in to work :notworking2"

Maybe she just popping out to buy you a nice xmas present resents3: and didn’t want you to see it. :santawalk:

[gj500]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

So what your saying is if there is a law saying all employees must be paid a minimum of 2 hours pay when called in you are happy to be paid 30 minutes.?

I think every employee should be paid what they are entitled too and for all time worked. Looks like our opinions are different

I cannot recall an employment law stating this. i may be wrong though. Overtime is paid as per the Companies terms and conditions of employment. She is being called in for a meeting, not to do her job, the Company has stated the meeting will last 30mins, and are going to pay her overtime accordingly. i completely understand your frustration at this situation, on the face of it, it does seem unfair. ASDA are a large employer, and one would assume they have a competent HR department, who would advise that the Company are within their rights to request your Wife's presence at the meeting.

[thered]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

Is it worth all the fuss?

When does your rights become worth a fuss? if nobody fussed we wouldn't have any rights as employees and kids would be still up chimneys

Its part of the reason that companies can ride rough shod over employees these days with pathetic contracts and unsociable hours that cut over time rates, premiums and hours.

]if the laws says 2 hours and they refuse to pay what next?

Shotgun

[leclerc]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

So what your saying is if there is a law saying all employees must be paid a minimum of 2 hours pay when called in you are happy to be paid 30 minutes.?

I think every employee should be paid what they are entitled too and for all time worked. Looks like our opinions are different

Has she stated to the employer that she has a prior arrangement on that day and cannot make and whether she can be told on the working day after that meeting? If not, then why not?

If you want to find something to annoy or to be the cause of unrest with her job place of 10 years then I am sure we can find something to annoy them over but for something which she can say NO to, then this is a little bit pointless.

If she has already said no then what was their response then maybe we might be able to dig deeper but at the moment, its not worth the energy to research it until we know what their response to saying NO is.

[wales01man]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

As I said before if its so bad why does she stay there?
problem seems to be with the OP not the wife he has a real monk on with companies.

[leclerc]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

As I said before if its so bad why does she stay there?
problem seems to be with the OP not the wife he has a real monk on with companies.

I think we are dealing with a problem that has yet to exist. She should say she is unable to make it as a prior engagement has come up and whether she could be told on her first shift back at work. IF they say NO then we can all jump in on the thread and find reasons to argue with the employer but they have to be reasonable as well as the employee. They have stated 30 miinutes extra for coming in which is reasonable but they have not stated that being there is OBLIGATORY which is a different kettle of fish.

To the OP, get her to decline it and then if they make a fuss come back. You've kinda done it the other way round ie you've asked for help prior to help being required.

[thered]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

As I said before if its so bad why does she stay there?
problem seems to be with the OP not the wife he has a real monk on with companies.

Seriously why are you even in this thread??


I asked a question in a forum about employment law, if you don't want to answer or cant answer it fair enough, your opinion is not what was asked. What may amount to a fuss to you is not too everyone else. 5 minutes early no pay 5 minutes late no pay and 1/2 hour meetings that cost more in fuel can also add up. Over a year, over a few hundred thousand employees well probably millions of ŁŁŁ's. Which is nice for a company that makes Billions but pays peanuts so as ever those at the bottom get squeezed

The thread was for advice, as i was asked to have a look, and most of the staff are very unhappy about it apart from the ones at work on that day. The point is they are all scared stiff to say no or do anything because they are frightened it may cause repercussions.

She has decided she is going in anyway, as it seems everyone else is so the thread is redundant, to myself and her.

Thanks for the input

[thered]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

I think we are dealing with a problem that has yet to exist. She should say she is unable to make it as a prior engagement has come up and whether she could be told on her first shift back at work. IF they say NO then we can all jump in on the thread and find reasons to argue with the employer but they have to be reasonable as well as the employee. They have stated 30 miinutes extra for coming in which is reasonable but they have not stated that being there is OBLIGATORY which is a different kettle of fish.

To the OP, get her to decline it and then if they make a fuss come back. You've kinda done it the other way round ie you've asked for help prior to help being required.

It was more to see where she stood before she decided to make or not make a stand

[leclerc]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

It was more to see where she stood before she decided to make or not make a stand

She doesn't have to make a stand. She simply has to say NO because she has a previous engagement and then see what the employer says. Remember, they have asked her and not OBLIGATED her to go so, for me, the issue is not about making a stand it is about whether they are going to be reasonable or unreasonable towards her.
I won't advise about a hypothetical situation until she has the full facts to consider, ie they tell her to turn up or be fired or they say, that's fine we'll inform you when you are at work.

In work, I either turn up or do not and if the employer is unreasonable then I consider what employment law can help me with an unreasonable employer. So far, they are not being unreasonable by simply asking and stating that they will pay her for the extra 30 minutes.

[Inca]

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When did we stop sending kids up chimneys?? I didn't get that memo :santa_cheesy:

Sorry,,trying to lighten the mood,,,it's Christmas :bedjump:

[thered]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

Like i say she has decided to go in anyway although begrudgingly, as are a few others. The way they see it is if they don't go they feel like work will be off with them. So to do it on her own makes her feel awkward and like she is making a stand. She feels a little bullied into going because everyone else is.

I agree with you it is probably more of an ask than compulsory, but she feels it been put like they have too attend. She likes her job and has friends there but feels at times because she always says yes they have a tendancy play on her.

Btw i think this was something similar to what i seen regarding pay and i dont think its applicable........its californian for a start lol not sure if same applies in UK

Reporting time pay for hours in excess of the actual hours worked is not considered wages, and is not counted as hours worked for purposes of determining overtime. The specific requirements for reporting time pay are:

• Each workday an employee is required to report to work, but is not put to work or is furnished with less than half of his or her usual or scheduled day's work, the employee must be paid for half the usual or scheduled day's work, but in no event for less than two hours nor more than four hours, at his or her regular rate of pay.
  For example, if an employee is scheduled to report to work for an eight-hour shift and only works for one hour, the employer is nonetheless obligated to pay the employee four hours of pay at his or her regular rate of pay (one for the hour worked, and three as reporting time pay). Only the one-hour actually worked, however, counts as actual hours worked.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

Btw i think this was something similar to what i seen regarding pay and i dont think its applicable........its californian for a start lol not sure if same applies in UK

Reporting time pay for hours in excess of the actual hours worked is not considered wages, and is not counted as hours worked for purposes of determining overtime. The specific requirements for reporting time pay are:

• Each workday an employee is required to report to work, but is not put to work or is furnished with less than half of his or her usual or scheduled day's work, the employee must be paid for half the usual or scheduled day's work, but in no event for less than two hours nor more than four hours, at his or her regular rate of pay.
  For example, if an employee is scheduled to report to work for an eight-hour shift and only works for one hour, the employer is nonetheless obligated to pay the employee four hours of pay at his or her regular rate of pay (one for the hour worked, and three as reporting time pay). Only the one-hour actually worked, however, counts as actual hours worked.

Does Walmart do that in Oklahoma?

Then why should ASDA do that in the UK?

By the way, it was the niggardly pay that helped me to deduce it was ASDA.

[thered]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

Does Walmart do that in Oklahoma?

Then why should ASDA do that in the UK?

By the way, it was the niggardly pay that helped me to deduce it was ASDA.

Thats a valid point, and yes they are probably the worst paying supermarket

[leclerc]

Re: Can you be made to go to a works meeting?

Like i say she has decided to go in anyway although begrudgingly, as are a few others. The way they see it is if they don't go they feel like work will be off with them. So to do it on her own makes her feel awkward and like she is making a stand. She feels a little bullied into going because everyone else is.

I agree with you it is probably more of an ask than compulsory, but she feels it been put like they have too attend. She likes her job and has friends there but feels at times because she always says yes they have a tendancy play on her.

Btw i think this was something similar to what i seen regarding pay and i dont think its applicable........its californian for a start lol not sure if same applies in UK

Reporting time pay for hours in excess of the actual hours worked is not considered wages, and is not counted as hours worked for purposes of determining overtime. The specific requirements for reporting time pay are:

• Each workday an employee is required to report to work, but is not put to work or is furnished with less than half of his or her usual or scheduled day's work, the employee must be paid for half the usual or scheduled day's work, but in no event for less than two hours nor more than four hours, at his or her regular rate of pay.
  For example, if an employee is scheduled to report to work for an eight-hour shift and only works for one hour, the employer is nonetheless obligated to pay the employee four hours of pay at his or her regular rate of pay (one for the hour worked, and three as reporting time pay). Only the one-hour actually worked, however, counts as actual hours worked.

It does not as you have kindly stated yourself. They have the death penalty in Texas.....not sure if it applies here in the UK