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Help with appeal. Opinions?

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  • #16
    Re: Help with appeal. Opinions?

    Originally posted by Qpips View Post
    Thanks, I would HATE to be labelled as troublemaker - I think I would rather have a warning!!!!
    There is nothing wrong with being a trouble maker if you do it right. But you catch more flies with honey... Don't fight until you have to.

    As my friend Labman pointed out, I approach these matters objectively. Because that's what the law does. People get into legal fights and then claim the law is biased. Sometimes it is, but more often than not they simply don't understand what the law is saying. The first law of employment law is to try and sort things out before there is a fight! Understand what the law says, yes. Be sure that you aren't fighting for something it doesn't say, because that just makes you look silly or incompetent. But sort it if you can, because if everyone walks away happy, or even equally unhappy, but can live with it, you all win. Your condition isn't going away. You want your employer rooting for you as long as possible. One day you may have to fight, but pick the battle you have to wage, because losing it this early in the game means your arsenal is spent.

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    • #17
      Re: Help with appeal. Opinions?

      Thank you.

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      • #18
        Re: Help with appeal. Opinions?

        Update: Appeal today went really well! Should hear by post this week! HR manager agreed with me that I was making adjustments to try to stay healthy, and that it was only fair that reasonable adjustments should be made work wise also, and my individual trigger points looked at sympathetically. She areed with all the points I raised and also commented that when she saw my name down as having been given the notice, she was shocked, "blimey, Qpips is never off" she said thought..

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        • #19
          Re: Help with appeal. Opinions?

          You see - more flies with honey If you can come to an agreement that works, then that is always the best way. It is possible, not necessarily but possible, that one day you may struggle to work at all. But having your employer rooting for keeping you as long as possible is the best position to be in. And meanwhile, in all fairness, their policy stands. Some of these policies I think, personally, are rather harsh - but I understand why these policies exist (because some people took the p*ss and ended up winning tribunals because employers knew who was taking the p*ss and who wasn't, so they only dismissed the ones who were!), and why they have to be applied in the same way across the board (otherwise they end up back at the position of being in tribunals)

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          • #20
            Re: Help with appeal. Opinions?

            Woohoo! Appeal upheld! Improvement notice overturned! I feel like a weight has been lifted!

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            • #21
              Re: Help with appeal. Opinions?

              Originally posted by Qpips View Post
              Woohoo! Appeal upheld! Improvement notice overturned! I feel like a weight has been lifted!
              Excellent news. And you now understand the law around all this much better, so don't let it sneak up on you again. Dialogue will get you further than the law ever will.

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