One for Eloise I think …
My Partner had been working as a Building Manager for company A (a property management company) for 4 years, when on 17thDecember he was informed that he was being TUPE’d over to company B (also a property management company) on 1st January. He never met anyone from company B, no introductions etc. On 4th January a “stranger”was spotted walking round the building, my Partner approached him (security waspart of his job) and asked if he could help him, he replied “yes I am your new boss” my Partner said “oh hello, nice to finally meet someone from company B”he replied “no I am from company C (a security company), we have been subcontracted by company B and you work for us, not company B, we will be paying your wages etc”
There were 4 employees who worked 3 x 12 hour shifts (8am –8pm), 2 of the employee’s worked the day shifts and 2 the night shifts, they then 3 days off. One of the original employee’s of company A decided he did not want to be TUPE’d and he left, and company C brought in one of their own men, who had only ever worked in security , never in Facilities Management (which was basically what the job was) After several months of continual problems including stopping all hot meals being eaten while on shift and not being allowed to leave the front desk to eat in the designated break area, the frontdesk had to be manned 24/7 with only one employee being on site at any one time, so no opportunity to have a hot meal during the 12 hour shift. There were some nights my Partner wouldn’t get home until gone midnight because they had to get someone to cover when their guy just didn’t turn up for his night shift.There were various contract changes with the threat “if you don’t sign you will be dismissed” one of which was NO security patrols round the building – strange when the company was a security company! My Partner eventually left the company after basically being told as he was the manager, they wanted to “demote” him to the same level as the other 3 employees and reduce his wages to match theirs, but to still carry out the extra duties he did as manager.
My Question is … can you sign to be TUPE’d over to one company but then be effectively TUPE’d over to another without notification?This all happened a couple of years ago now, but it’s always irked us how this was carried out and was it lawful etc, the fact that company C was a security company and had no idea how to manage the day to day running of a building was evident. This only for our own information as I doubt there is anything we can do about it now anyway.
Thanks,
Kit
My Partner had been working as a Building Manager for company A (a property management company) for 4 years, when on 17thDecember he was informed that he was being TUPE’d over to company B (also a property management company) on 1st January. He never met anyone from company B, no introductions etc. On 4th January a “stranger”was spotted walking round the building, my Partner approached him (security waspart of his job) and asked if he could help him, he replied “yes I am your new boss” my Partner said “oh hello, nice to finally meet someone from company B”he replied “no I am from company C (a security company), we have been subcontracted by company B and you work for us, not company B, we will be paying your wages etc”
There were 4 employees who worked 3 x 12 hour shifts (8am –8pm), 2 of the employee’s worked the day shifts and 2 the night shifts, they then 3 days off. One of the original employee’s of company A decided he did not want to be TUPE’d and he left, and company C brought in one of their own men, who had only ever worked in security , never in Facilities Management (which was basically what the job was) After several months of continual problems including stopping all hot meals being eaten while on shift and not being allowed to leave the front desk to eat in the designated break area, the frontdesk had to be manned 24/7 with only one employee being on site at any one time, so no opportunity to have a hot meal during the 12 hour shift. There were some nights my Partner wouldn’t get home until gone midnight because they had to get someone to cover when their guy just didn’t turn up for his night shift.There were various contract changes with the threat “if you don’t sign you will be dismissed” one of which was NO security patrols round the building – strange when the company was a security company! My Partner eventually left the company after basically being told as he was the manager, they wanted to “demote” him to the same level as the other 3 employees and reduce his wages to match theirs, but to still carry out the extra duties he did as manager.
My Question is … can you sign to be TUPE’d over to one company but then be effectively TUPE’d over to another without notification?This all happened a couple of years ago now, but it’s always irked us how this was carried out and was it lawful etc, the fact that company C was a security company and had no idea how to manage the day to day running of a building was evident. This only for our own information as I doubt there is anything we can do about it now anyway.
Thanks,
Kit
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