• Welcome to the LegalBeagles Consumer and Legal Forum.
    Please Register to get the most out of the forum. Registration is free and only needs a username and email address.
    REGISTER
    Please do not post your full name, reference numbers or any identifiable details on the forum.
  • If you need direct help with your employment issue you can contact us at admin@legalbeaglesgroup.com for further assistance. This will give you access to “off-forum” support on a one-to- one basis from an experienced employment law expert for which we would welcome that you make a donation to help towards their time spent assisting on your matter. You can do this by clicking on the donate button in the box below.

Employer's Liability Insurance for non-exec directors.

Collapse
Loading...
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Employer's Liability Insurance for non-exec directors.

    Hi,

    We are a small gardening business operating as a Community Interest Company. We have 2 executive directors with 50-50 stake in the company who actively run the business and carry out all the labour, and a third, non-executive director who is there just to allow us to be eligible for external grants and funding, but who has no share in the company, is not a person with significant control and will never be remunerated (as there is nothing to remunerate him for - he is not doing any work). There are no other people the business employs.

    Under these circumstances, do we need an Employer's Liability Insurance? Any help would be much appreciated!
    Tags: None

  • #2
    Your insurance broker can advise. Consider also Directors and Officers Liability Insurance.
    Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

    Litigants in Person should download and read this: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

    Comment


    • #3
      A CIC is a particular form of limited company and as such you will need certain insurances.

      1. You may need Public Liability Insurance - this provides protection for the company's legal liabilities should a member of the public, or a client etc suffer injury or damage to property as a result of the actions of you, the non-exec director or any volunteers you may have whilst carrying out your business activities.

      2. Employer's Liability Insurance - you may not have employees as defined under the Employer's Liability (Compulsory Insurance) Act 1969 linked to below

      https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1969/57/section/2

      However, as part of your gardening business do you utilise the services of volunteers? If so, your duty of care remains the same whether they are being paid or not, as they are deemed to be acting under your instruction. If you do have volunteers then you nay need in fact need to consider having this insurance.

      3. Premises and Equipment - if you operate from a fixed premises you may need cover for buildings, contents, fixtures and fittings. Even if you do not have a fixed premises, you may need cover for gardening equipment, business computers etc.

      4. Management Liability Insurance - even though you are a CIC, specific risks exist in terms of losses relating to the actions or activities of the management of the company or directors. Directors and Officers insurance cover provides protection against claims of negligence levied against directors or officers (including non-execs) in the performance of their duties. This can be a particularly important area for a CIC should someone challenge how funds were being utilised and whether a director's actions could be considered in the best interests of the company's social enterprise ethos.

      Sorry to have widened the scope of your original question and you may have some of these in place already. I would advise speaking with an insurance broker.
      If you would like a one-to-one expert consultation with me on your employment issue than I can be contacted by emailing admin@legalbeaglesgroup.com

      I do not provide advice by PM although I may on occasion ask you to send me documents this way but any related advice will be provided back on your thread.

      I do my best to provide good practical advice, however I do so without liability.
      If you have any doubts then do please seek professional legal advice.


      You can’t always stop the waves but you can learn to surf.

      You are braver than you believe, smarter than you think and stronger than you seem.



      If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

      Comment


      • #4
        Please do your own research but I think you don't have to have Employer's Liability Insurance because your business does not employ anyone outside of the directors who are also owners.

        Comment


        • #5
          You need Employers' Liability Insurance because you say your directors are executive directors, meaning that they carry out work activities for the company where they are not acting as a Director but as an employee.

          Analysing the law isn't necessarily the best way to approach this, instead look at the risks your CIC faces. I don't know exactly how your business operates but supposing an executive director is mowing the grass and gets their hand trapped in the machinery and is injured? [Substitute any similar example that makes sense in your business]. The exec director can sue the CIC. But as the CIC likely has nowhere near enough assets to meet a serious injury claim it is in the directors' best interest to ensure there's an EL insurer there to meet the cost of compensation.

          Look at the definition of 'employee' in any EL policy you are offered. Typically that definition is wider than the legal definition of 'employee' and would include all directors and also (as mentioned by ULA) volunteers if that is relevant. Get them added to the definition of 'employee' if you have them.

          There are plenty of policies around for small businesses like yours which have combined EL and PL policies. Do you sell or supply any actual products? That may need covering too.

          Last edited by PallasAthena; 13th June 2024, 06:11:AM.
          All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Anomousm2 View Post
            Please do your own research but I think you don't have to have Employer's Liability Insurance because your business does not employ anyone outside of the directors who are also owners.
            Handle this advice with care!
            Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

            Litigants in Person should download and read this: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

            Comment

            View our Terms and Conditions

            LegalBeagles Group uses cookies to enhance your browsing experience and to create a secure and effective website. By using this website, you are consenting to such use.To find out more and learn how to manage cookies please read our Cookie and Privacy Policy.

            If you would like to opt in, or out, of receiving news and marketing from LegalBeagles Group Ltd you can amend your settings at any time here.


            If you would like to cancel your registration please Contact Us. We will delete your user details on request, however, any previously posted user content will remain on the site with your username removed and 'Guest' inserted.

            Announcement

            Collapse

            Welcome to LegalBeagles


            Donate with PayPal button

            LegalBeagles is a free forum, founded in May 2007, providing legal guidance and support to consumers and SME's across a range of legal areas.

            See more
            See less

            Court Claim ?

            Guides and Letters
            Loading...



            Search and Compare fixed fee legal services and find a solicitor near you.

            Find a Law Firm


            Working...
            X