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  • Forged documents

    Respondent in an employment tribunal has forged my signature on to an employment contract. It's a pretty bad forgery at that.
    Meta data shows the document was manufactured after the prehearing
    I claimed I wasn't given an employment contract and the Respondent admitted this in an impromptu judicial mediation the judge conducted to explore a settlement.
    What are my options?
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  • #2
    They also emailed this 'evidence' to the wrong court lol

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    • #3
      Your options include demonstrating the forgery to the tribunal at the hearing. To do this you should give notice that you challenge the authenticity of the document.
      Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

      Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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      • #4
        Thanks Atticus,
        I do this by emailling the tribunal?
        Do I request the document be certified by someone? police officer? solicitors etc?
        Or can I request the bring the original with a wet ink signature to the hearing?

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        • #5
          I would notify the other party and copy in the Tribunal.
          Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

          Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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          • #6
            Ask what it is that proves your assertion. Meta data can be determnative if you really do understand it and can demonstrate it.

            Even if it was forged is the court now apprised through their admission at mediation of the forgery?

            Do not lose sight of the essentials of the claim. Proving that they have forged the copy supplied to te court need not be the end of it.

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            • #7
              dslippy


              The claim was for unauthorised deductions, they've admitted im owed that money in their witness statement, so it's a no brainer really.

              I'm going to do what Atticus suggested and give them notice I intend to challenge the authenticity of the section 1. I'll ask them to take the original wet ink document to the employment tribunal and have it certified by them.

              Not sure what else I can do at this point. It's certainly not a make or break the claim situation though.





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              • #8
                Atti would be the first to say hat you identify what it you need to prove to make your claim. What you do not want is to put a lot of effort and reliance on proving the forgery only to lose because other essential were missed.

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                • #9
                  Don't ask for an original wet ink document if you believe there isn't one.

                  And keep your eye on the ball of what you have to prove in order to win your case. There, I have been the second to say that.
                  Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

                  Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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                  • #10
                    So is it for them to prove its authenticity?

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                    • #11
                      It is for a person who disputes a document's authenticity to make good the assertion.
                      Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

                      Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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                      • #12
                        And how would you approach that?

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                        • #13
                          with evidence.

                          You challenge the document. Presumably you have reasons for doing so. Back up those reasons.
                          Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

                          Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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                          • #14
                            If te document is essential to the case, fine. Go ahead.
                            If it is not essential.,do not think that proving they have forged a document willl infect the rest of the case. It will certainly not suggest good things, but a tribunal may put it to one side. Stcik to the case.

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