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HR pulled me to tell I am too old to date 19-year-old women

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  • HR pulled me to tell I am too old to date 19-year-old women

    I apologise in advance if this is not the best place or forum to ask such a question, in which case I would appreciate it if you could point me to a better place to ask it.

    I am a male employee in my early 40s, working in a London-based mid-size company of 150 employees. This is an office environment, and most times I work remotely.

    Recently, I was pulled by a female employee from the HR department, who forwarded some anonymous complaints: "There have been many complaints that you're developing a reputation across this business for making inappropriate remarks about how you feel about women, especially younger women."

    After the initial shock, the next day, I asked for clarification. There were 3 complaints on two occasions, both at the company's office, outside working hours, and during social events. The first complaint was filed individually by one person and the second was filed by 2 people. I could only get clarification for the second complaint, because HR wanted to protect the anonymity of the first complainant. The second complaint was described as follows: "We were shocked by what he said and we left the scene immediately after. He was referring to his personal life, that he broke up with his fiance and he prefers only dating younger females. Implying that he's not interested in older women, which we found offensive. He also said that he dated someone new immediately after breaking up with his fiance, implying that women are interchangeable, which we found offensive."

    What I remember saying on a similar occasion in the past is: I broke up with the girl I was thinking of proposing to and went on vacation with a new girl. But I am alright, like I said to a girlfriend in the past, who used to joke about my age, if you keep joking about my age, I am going to find a younger woman. I was asked how old my new girlfriend is, to which I responded 19.

    I feel shocked, violated, embarrassed and terrified. Male sexuality with younger women is a serious and delicate subject. Having joined a year ago, to date I have built excellent relationships with my colleagues and this could ruin everything. It could break the trust with my colleagues, and eventually the relationships, and my potential for promotion. I can no longer be comfortable in any social setting with my colleagues.

    I believe the way HR and the complainants acted on this occasion is disrespectful, harmful, discriminatory and illegal. When I like a certain type of person, whether that be based on age, gender, physical characteristics etc, is all part of my sexuality (sexual orientation), and the workplace should be non-judgemental about sexuality. Just because I am 40+ age does not mean I should not be dating a girl who's 19, or that I cannot date a new girl right after a break up. More so, saying that it's inappropriate and offensive to be open about it is same as saying it's inappropriate and offensive to be open about being a homosexual, just because you don't have the same sexual orientation. Age, gender and sexual orientation are protected characteristics in the Equality Act 2010.

    In your view, what is the best course of action?

    PS: You can find the full version of the story at: https://yesday.github.io/blog/2022/m...workplace.html
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  • #2
    ULA may assist here

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    • #3
      First and above all, grab whatever you can find of your companies formal policies on the topic. Read them and adhere to them.

      Next, recognise that whatever the objective view of the way you come across, it has twice lead people to complain. You are gettimg something wrong.
      You are on the company's books for this now. Be very much more careful in future.

      You may think this unfair. It might indeed be so, but this is the very particular place yu work in amd the world we all live in.

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      • #4
        The complaints were informal. If I am being honest, I am not sure what's the difference between an informal and a formal complaint, as this has never happened to me before. I don't think it's just unfair. I think it's harmful and illegal. I do not have any interaction with the HR for my daily work and my work environment is amazing. I don't think I have any interaction in my daily work with the complainants either, because they seem to talk about my fiance and in fact I never had one, which indicates they barely know me. The complaints are as dumb as saying that there are rumours that I am of particular race and they disapprove my race. Or there are rumours that I am a homosexual and am open about it and they find this offensive because they are straight. As per the Equality Act 2010, I don't think it would be legal to have any policy that allows this in any company in the UK.
        Last edited by g000444555; 3rd July 2022, 17:02:PM.

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        • #5
          What do you want?

          For what it is worth, I agree with dslippy.
          Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

          Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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          • #6
            I am considering to make a claim to an Employment Tribunal: https://yesday.github.io/blog/2022/m...workplace.html

            I have a couple of options:
            1. Submit a claim to the Employment Tribunal
            2. Write a Severance Letter to my employer. What this would do is highlight the legal basis for a claim that I may have, highlight that I am considering bringing that claim and propose a figure for settlement.
            In your view what would make the most sense from the financial standpoint?

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            • #7
              2, provided that you do not miss the time limits for starting a tribunal claim. If you don't reach agreement, then you can bring your claim.

              Bear in mind that agreement brings you certainty. It also saves you several months, maybe over a year, of the tribunal process and uncertainty whether you will win your case and get anything at all.

              I have not read whatever it is that you have linked to.
              Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

              Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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              • #8
                g000444555 threads have been merged as they are related.
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                • #9
                  ULA I was looking how to delete the original post, but couldn't find the option to do so. Unless you object, I would prefer to delete the original post, because I wrote it on a rush, and the recent post includes all the relevant information anyway in a much more concise way presenting a summary of the case.
                  Last edited by g000444555; 14th September 2022, 18:28:PM.

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