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PLEASE HELP! - egg v Mark20 -- MEIII / Mortimer Clarke

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  • PLEASE HELP! - egg v Mark20 -- MEIII / Mortimer Clarke

    Hi All,

    This is my first post and apologies if I have missed where to start. I would hope somebody can help me out with the issue I am. I will explain in detail below:

    On Saturday morning I picked up a letter from my Letting Agent from my old property which was a Claim Form from Northampton County Court Bulk Centre (Bear in mind I have had redirection set up since I left the property in December 2012 - Thanks Royal Mail ) . The letter was dated 19th Feb 2014. The Claimant is ME III LIMITED and Mortimer Clarke Solicitors are dealing with this on their behalf.

    The Particulars of Claim are as follows:

    By a credit agreement in writing between Egg Banking plc ("CEGL ") & the Defendant dated 12/07/2004 ("the Agreement") CEGL agreed to loan the Defendant monies under the terms & conditions set out therein. The Agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974. In breach of the Agreement the Defendant did not pay the instalments as they fell due. CEGL served a Default Notice on the Defendant stating the sum due & requiring the Defendant to pay the same. The Defendant failed to pay & the Agreement was terminated. The Agreement was assigned to the Claimant on 12/03/2013.
    The Claimant has complied with Sections III & IV of Practice Direction - Pre-Action Conduct
    THE CLAIMANT THEREFORE CLAIMS:
    1. 4890.93
    2. Interest pursuant to section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984, namely 3509.95 & continuing until Judgment or sooner payment at the ration of 1.07.

    Now for a bit of background and what I have done so far. The debt has been passed around the houses since 2007, first ARC Credit Management then Moorcroft Debt Recovery Limited and then to Fredrickson International Limited. Now as far as I was aware the debt still belonged to Fredrickson International Limited who have been dealing with the account since 2010. I agreed a payment plan with them and since that date have made monthly payments to the account without once defaulting.

    So today I called Fredrickson (By the way I had given them my new address in December 2012 - This was also accepted as security questions on the call) to discuss why I received the claim form from Northampton Court and they told me the debt was taken from them in March 2013 and was given to Arrow Global and that my direct debit had been cancelled with them since this date. I then went on to explain I had no correspondence from them with regards to firstly the debt being transferred nor the cancellation of the direct debit (I hadn't noticed that the direct debit had been cancelled - stupid I know )

    They said as they where no longer dealing with the account they could not help me any further. They did however give me the details of Arrow Global. So I then called Arrow Global to find out what was going on, firstly they had no record of my new address only the old one (obviously Fredrickson didn't pass the new details on) they said the debt had been SOLD to Marlin Financial Services however they did not have any details of Marlin for me too call them about it.

    So this is where I am now at, I have received ZERO correspondence from Marlin nor Mortimer Clarke Solicitors, if anything has been sent its either lost in the Royal Mail sorting office or has been binned by the tenants.

    So guys how do I take this forward? I certainly do NOT want a CCJ on my file its taken me 6 years to get a good credit rating back. It says on the letter I must respond within 14 days and I have already lost 3 days. What worries me the most is if my tenants hadn't passed this letter on to the letting agent I would never have received it and this would have gone on without me ever knowing.

    Now from reading through I need to at least submit ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF SERVICE probably via the online portal, thus giving me a further 14 days to provide a defence claim.

    Submitting my defence is where I am a little confused as how to proceed. As I have received no letters at all from Mortimer Clarke or Marlin should I request for information? Send them a series of letters? Either way I agree I owe £4890.93 but I definitely do NOT want to pay the interest charged on top as that was not in my agreement, whether they say I defaulted on it or not. If I am was not getting their letters surely they would have to provide proof of postage? Or at least receipt of those letters?

    Any advice or more information you need please let me know. I really appreciate everyone's time in reading this.

    Regards,

    Mark
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    Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

    Any advice guys, just worried I might be setting myself up for a fall.

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    • #3
      Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

      Evening Sorry we missed this earlier just having a read through xx
      #staysafestayhome

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      • #4
        Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

        Okay, yes indeed submit your acknowledgement of service then I would ask Mortimer Clarke for the documents which they mention in their particulars of claim, the ''credit agreement in writing between Egg Banking plc ("CEGL ") & the Defendant dated 12/07/2004 ("the Agreement") ", the terms & conditions set out therein, Default Notice ..... and their pre-action letters that they claim to have sent covering the preaction conduct rules. There's some example letters http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...ic-information which you can amend to cover that and that they have claimed to a wrong address.

        I would also sent the CCA request (examples http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...y-of-Agreement ) for the original agreement to Marlin as they are now deemed the creditor under the CCA as they have purchased the debt. Their particulars are quite vague they don't even sound sure if it was a loan or card.

        Hope that helps a little and points you in the right direction to begin with.
        #staysafestayhome

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        • #5
          Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

          Thanks Amethyst I really appreciate your response I have looked over the documents and put together the CPR letter. I will sort out the acknowledgement tomorrow and send the CPR letter and CCA including the postal order by recorded mail.

          I will be sure to update this thread on the progress, hopefully there will be a good result from this.

          Many thanks

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          • #6
            Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

            The odds are in the order of £1 to a pinch of dried up, dingo dung that the buggers won't be able to comply with either request.

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            • #7
              Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

              Right guys I have completed the acknowledge of service and I am heading to the post office shortly to send off the letters. I must admit I am a tad worried about all this. Is it now advisable to wait another 12 days then submit my defence? I suppose it depends on whether they respond or not?

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              • #8
                Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                Once you enter your acknowledgment it should give you a date for the defence so you're okay for a bit.

                While you're waiting for responses to the CPR and CCA requests we can work on your defence in case we need to use it.

                The best way to start on this is to write a witness statement which can accompany your defence. Then we can take the facts out of that and apply the law and CPR for the defence. Don't worry too much about the wording just the facts in order.

                So for example;


                1: On 12/07/2004 I entered into an agreement with Egg Banking Plc for a loan of £XXXXXXXX.

                2. On XXXXXXXX I made a payment of XXXXXXX to Egg Banking Plc and made further payments of £XXX on or around the 27th of every month

                3. On xxxxxxxxxxxxx 2007? I became unemployed

                4. On or around XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I received a letter from ARC / Moorcroft

                5. On or around XXXXXXXXXXXXXX I received a letter from Fredrickson and made an arrangement to repay the loan to them via a payment plan of XXXXXXX per month.

                6. On xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx my first payment of XXX was taken by Direct Debit from my current banking account.

                7. Thereafter XXXXXXXXX was taken by Direct Debit on or around the XXXth of each month.

                8. In December 2012 I moved house from xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and informed Fredricksons of this by telephone/in writing

                and so on to today's date.....

                9/ On xxxxxxxxxxxxxx I sent a CPR request .......................... etc
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                • #9
                  Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                  Thank you so much for all your help with this, I am really glad I decided to join the forum and feel much better in dealing with this. It has come as a surprise as I have been making payments to these guys for 10 years now. This could all of been avoided if they had contacted me correctly as I would of offered a 50% sum to clear the debt.

                  Too little too late now! I suppose how we proceed will depend on how they respond to my queries. I am keeping my fingers crossed they have missed a trick somewhere and this gets quashed.

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                  • #10
                    Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                    I have also found out if a CCJ is placed on my record my job would be at risk due to the work I carry out requires SC clearance. This would seriously affect my business conducting its duties of which I am the sole director. I have read about a Tomlin Order is this something that can be drawn up after the judgement has been made or should I state my issue in my defence?

                    I sent the letters via recorded mail yesterday and enclosed the £1 postal order. So I suppose time will tell.
                    Last edited by Mark20; 26th February 2014, 19:11:PM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                      Sorry guys, just wondering whether I need to include a statement from my boss including the risk of losing my job should this go ahead? Is there anything else I should be doing?

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                      • #12
                        Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                        Once you have the responses from the CPR and CCA requests we can look at things and decide what to do. If you priority is to avoid a CCJ then coming to an arrangement with the claimants is an option at that point. They do quite often agree to consent/tomlin orders which give you opportunity to pay via installments and the court claim is on hold in courts as security for if you miss payments, when they can then ask for judgment.

                        I wouldn't mention your work in the letters as it might encourage them to ramp up the pressure on you. Keep it simple for the moment.
                        #staysafestayhome

                        Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

                        Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

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                        • #13
                          Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                          Thanks very much, I haven't heard anything back yet so will see what happens. What I am confused about is when I need to file my defence as I have now acknowledged is it 28 days from 19th Feb?

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                          • #14
                            Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                            It's 33 days from the date on the claim form. 5 for service and 14 + 14.

                            M1

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                            • #15
                              Re: PLEASE HELP! - Northampton Bulk Clearing Centre Form

                              I am taking it that no news is good news? I havent had a reply, phone call nothing since I sent the letters on 25th Feb. I have kept a copy of the recorded delivery notice including signature which arrived on 26th. Its been 14 days since they received the letters.

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