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3K PCN court claim from private parking company

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  • #16
    Originally posted by A.L View Post
    Is it better I don't mention about the parking is free sign as I supposed that means I was the driver?
    But you haven't admitted in the defence that you were the driver,
    Having received the claim you could have visited the site to ascertain the position.
    Obviously if asked directly in court by the judge (unlikely) you cannot deny being the driver, but it is for the claimant to prove on the balance of probabilities


    Is it worth mentioning about the no proof of delivery for the notifying letters? So letters may not have been received or could've been delayed
    No, as if the item is posted it is assumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered.

    I have also just noticed that the Issue dates on some of initial PCN letters are over a month from the incident date. For example Issue date 19/09/2024 and incident date 26/4/2024. Does that help the defence in anyway?
    That is why I requested early on that you post up copies of the Notice to Keeper
    You need to add to your defence under Keeper liability section where there is mention of PCNs not complying with with the conditions required by POFA 2012, that in particular the claimant failed to deliver certain NTKs within the relevant period as mandated in Schedule4 para 9 (4) (5) & (6)

    It could be that there are other errors in your favour, so suggest you read the relevant act and compare the NTK with the rules. You'll have to be careful as you don't know how many of those NTKs are inaccurate

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    • #17
      Thank you. I have submitted the defence. I had to summarise a little so that it fitted into the 122-line requirement online. Will keep you posted. Thank you

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      • #18
        Hi again, DCB left a voicemail on my phone, I believe to reach a settlement. Should I call back or ignore? What are they likely to say if i call?

        Thanks

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        • #19
          Possibly was DCB Legal hoping to reach an agreement.

          I would advise against phoning them, but respond with an email telling them that all communications, even those "without prejudice", should be in writing.

          It is all to easy in verbal discussions to make an error or agree to terms which later one regrets

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          • #20
            Hi again, I received an email about the settlement, here are the main details:

            WITHOUT PREJUDICE SAVE AS TO COSTS



            We write to you in relation to the above matter.



            To assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our Client may be prepared to settle this case. I can confirm our Client would be agreeable to £2000.00 in full and final settlement of this Claim. The current outstanding balance is £2859.40.

               

            Should you be agreeable to this offer, please confirm the same within 7 days. Payment can be made via our website www.dcblegal.co.uk, by calling our office on 0203 838 7038 or via bank transfer: 
            Upon receipt of the settlement sum of £2000.00 we will update the Court that the matter has been settled. If you are not agreeable, we will continue to follow the Court process as normal.


            Not sure what the best way to respond is? What happens if I reject?

            Thanks

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            • #21
              If you decline to negotiate they will probably continue with the claim.
              This is a numbers game for them, but in your case the prize if they win is much better than the normal £200 - £300

              If they win they should not obtain an award higher than £1500 +solicitor's fee £50 plus court costs £85.(read the 2 sections of your defence which deal with recovery of costs)
              If you want to negotiate go back with a counter offer, below the amount you are prepared to pay

              On the other hand IMO you have a good defence and should win if it ever reaches court. However small claims track is a bit of a lottery and nothing is 100% certain

              There is also the chance they will discontinue the claim anyway, and so are now trying to negotiate a payment of any amount!

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              • #22
                Thanks for your response, I was thinking of just saying to them that I would only be willing to consider paying the cost of one parking ticket (I believe £100). I am confident if they do decide to continue the claim and willing to take my chances with the possibility of them discontinuing. I will respond to them tomorrow.

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                • #23
                  Hi there I received this email this morning, is there anything I need to include on the form specifically? What will happen from here?


                  Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.



                  In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court.



                  Without Prejudice to the above, in order to assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our client may be prepared to settle this case - in the event you wish to discuss settlement, please call us on 0203 434 0433 within 7 days and make immediate reference to this correspondence.



                  If you have provided an email address within your Defence, we intend to use it for service of documents (usually in PDF format) hereon in pursuant to PD 6A (4.1)(2)(c). Please advise whether there are any limitations to this (for example, the format in which documents are to be sent and the maximum size of attachments that may be received). Unless you advise otherwise, we will assume not


                  Thanks
                  Aly

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                  • #24
                    Did you try making an offer to settle?
                    If you do negotiate with them, be sure to mark the correspondence "without prejudice".

                    Completing the N180 form is fairly straight forward.
                    Small claims track ..yes
                    You want a hearing as there are points of fact in dispute e.g. the signage
                    Yes to mediation
                    Hearing at defendant's home court
                    No expert
                    one witness

                    The court will arrange mediation.
                    This is by phone, the parties speaking only to the mediator

                    If that fails eventually the court will issue directions regarding witness statements and a court hearing

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