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  • Overdales court claim - Npower

    Hi everyone, hope you're all well.





    Received a claim? Yes
    Issue Date: 23rd February '22
    Have you Acknowledged the Claim?: Yes
    Total Amount Claimed : £850
    Claimant’s Name: Lowell Portfolio
    Solicitors Firm: Overdales
    Original Creditor: Npower
    Original Debt Gas/electric bills
    Particulars of Claim: The claim is for the sum of £660 due by
    the defendant under a npower account with an
    account reference of ************* The defendant failed to
    maintain contractual payments under the terms of the
    account agreement. The debt was legally assigned to the
    claimant on 04-06-21, notice of which has been given to
    the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under
    S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum
    from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these
    proceedings in the sum of £38. The claimant claims the sum of £700.
    ( Please type out in full excluding names/account numbers/exact amounts ):
    Is the debt Statute Barred (have you had any contact with the creditor or claimant over the last 6 years?): The case is only from 2018
    List any letters you have sent (eg: CCA/ CPR ): None yet, although some advice on this would be very welcome
    Any Other Information or Background Details:

    (sorry if it's a bit extensive!)

    Timeline:

    Sept ‘18: Moved into new property fitted with prepayment meters billed to Npower. Immediately requested these to be changed to credit meters in order to facilitate a switch back to our previous renewable energy provider.

    Oct ’18: Contacted our previous provider to initiate the switch back. They detected that neither of the new credit meters were on the database and to enquire with Npower why this was the case.

    : Npower were puzzled by the loss of meters and I was subsequently informed as these could not be located I could not yet be billed. I replied saying that as (at the time) I was a mature postgrad student and my girlfriend out of work due to mental health issues we were therefore on a tight budget and needed to be billed in order to manage our finances. As there was no way for us to provide any meter readings or be regularly billed this would impact our ability to continually assess our usage.

    : An Npower advisor stated that as it was they that could not locate the meters (meaning we could neither pay what we owe to remain within our budget or commence with the switch back to our previous provider), our billing date would not start until the meters were located and we would be contacted as soon as the meters were found.

    Late Dec ’18: Had heard nothing from Npower regarding the meters and then a bill for electricity arrives (actually, a series of confusing bills – some which appeared to be final bills for a previous meter but, confusingly, addressed to myself). Contacted Npower as they appeared to be charging us for the whole period, whereby we were stuck on their highest tariff, had no option to switch, and were unable to assess our usage. I stated we still had not had any bill for the gas, to which I was told that meter was still awol.

    Feb ’19: A gas bill finally arrives, once again for the entire period. Spoke to an advisor and insisted they go through their records to find the phone conversation wherein I was informed we would not be billed for their error. Despite giving them the exact date of this call, they had ‘lost’ (their words) this call from their records.

    : Complaint made against Npower and informed this would go to their decision makers. Offered an utterly pointless £10 ‘goodwill gesture’.

    May ’19: Had no response from any decision makers while in the meantime received bills that seemed to be appearing more red over time and so took our case to the energy ombudsman.


    Our main grievances were that by being trapped with an energy provider we by no means wanted to be with (in the case of our gas supply, for 6 months), on tariffs much higher than we could be paying, while being unable to contribute towards renewable energy sources, unable to manage our finances through regular billing, and Npower both going against their word and being completely inept throughout.


    The ombudsman upheld our case, of which his main findings were:

    - to maintain in resolution the offer made by Npower to remove the electricity charges for the period the meter could not be located, meaning £119 would be taken from the total bill (oddly, this figure of £119 relates to the date when we made the first complaint, and not when the meter was finally located).

    - owing to poor level of customer service, poor standards and misinformation over billing a further £100 should be taken from the final

    - Npower claimed to have provided us a ‘deadlock letter’ which we denied. The ombudsman requested this from them, but they were unable to provide a copy.

    - full written apology blah blah blah (which we never received, unsurprisingly)


    In the end we declined this offer (actually the offer expired as we hadn’t noticed the deadline date, but the outcome would have been the same in either case) on the basis that only the electricity bill was considered while any mention of the gas bill was omitted by Npower, presumably as this amounted to more. I feel our rights as consumers were non-existent and we were essentially held to ransom by Npower for 6 months through nothing but their own ineptitude. I think we may have contacted Npower after the ombudsman’s decision expired to revise their offer, but nothing came of this.


    And so it has reached this stage. We are willing to make a settlement, if this is even still possible, as a part admission with a defence. As to how to come to a conclusive figure I really don’t know where to start – as mentioned we never received any ongoing bills and so have little to go on. I feel the fact the ombudsman upheld our case, at least in part, and was pretty scathing of Npower could make for a reasonable defence. At least that’s what I hope!

    Should I be sending Overdales a CPR request? I’m unsure what I would be asking for. I have until 28th March to submit my defence.


    If anyone could provide any insights it really would be greatly appreciated (and apologies for the longwinded background info!)
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  • #2
    Hi Blue

    At this stage it is best to defend the whole claim, get all the data they hold on the account, once you get it, go through it, build your case.

    You'll have opportunity to settle (mediation), but at this stage you don't know what or why you should settle.

    Do the following, update the thread when you've gone through the data they send.

    a) Send Overdales a CPR 31.14 Request, they have 14 days to provide documents they are relying to make the claim. Make sure you get Proof of Postage. Ask for a copy of the agreement, letter of assignment and default notice.

    https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...-of-documents/

    b) Send NPower a SAR, they have 30 days to provide all the details on the account (6 year period). Make sure you get Proof of Postage.

    https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...ccess-request/

    Make sure you get your defence in on time, so 28 days (plus 5 post) from 23rd February, note it in your diary.

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    • #3
      Hi ECHAT

      Thanks so much for your advice. Ill get the letters sent today.

      For the CPR request I can see that 'account agreement' is mentioned and also 'assignment'. But can I request a default notice as it doesn't appear to be explicitly mentioned in the particulars of the claim?

      And could you please explain the purpose of defending in full against a part admission with defence, and what difference could mean regarding the courts and potential outcome?

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      • #4
        defend all then has to be proven, part admit then then case part proven and a CCJ as fact something owed?

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        • #5
          Hi Mike

          Thanks for your input.

          The thing is we have always want to pay part of the bill but as we were never billed for the this part and only the whole period Npower tied us in due to their repeated errors this has never been possible.

          So you think it's still a case of defending in full? I'm not sure how I would go about defending it outright?

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          • #6
            echat11 maybe able to suggest?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BlueCicada View Post
              Hi Mike

              Thanks for your input.

              The thing is we have always want to pay part of the bill but as we were never billed for the this part and only the whole period Npower tied us in due to their repeated errors this has never been possible.

              So you think it's still a case of defending in full? I'm not sure how I would go about defending it outright?
              You are basically saying, NPower caused the errors that has lead to this 'alleged debt', if that is the case, 'Back Billing' could come into play, where you shouldn't have to pay because you've done nothing wrong, but NPower has caused the 'errors' because of billing mistakes.

              https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/co...ll-in-a-while/

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              • #8
                Thanks echat11 that seems an interesting take on things. I'll research the back-billing ruling later today.

                Just another thing - for the CPR 31.14 request how am I to provide £1 statutory fee? as a postal order? and is this just sent with the CPR letter itself?

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                • #9
                  No fee CPR

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                  • #10
                    Ah ok, cheers Mike

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                    • #11
                      Hold on - in the CPR 31.14 template is this 'In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request'.

                      Do I just omit this section from the letter if no fee is expected?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BlueCicada View Post
                        Hold on - in the CPR 31.14 template is this 'In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request'.

                        Do I just omit this section from the letter if no fee is expected?
                        If there are any costs, they'll comeback to you, I've never actually seen costs requested ever. It's in there to put the 'onus' on them to provide the required documents.

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                        • #13
                          ok thanks echat11

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                          • #14
                            Hi folks

                            I had been holding off composing my defence until I received the documents requested from Overdales. These are still yet to arrive but my defence deadline is this coming Monday so it looks like I'll have to forge ahead without the documents - unless there's any scope for me to delay the court hearing?

                            As for for my defence, I've looked over the template provided on this site but can't quite fathom how I can amend this to fit my case as there's quite a gulf in circumstances. If anyone could help with this it would be greatly appreciated.

                            Also, can anything else be sent with the defence statement - namely evidence from the energy ombudsman's verdict, the bills we were finally sent etc?

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                            • #15
                              Even if you haven't received the requested documents, you must file your Defence.

                              Your Defence can be filed online. A copy to the Court and a copy to Overdales, Make sure you get Proof of Postage.

                              The following is a example Defence, it can be amended to suit. Remove all references to CCA 1974.

                              https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...-court-claims/

                              Once you've done it, just copy and paste it, remove all personal details replace with XXXXXXXXXX.

                              You can't add other documents at this stage.

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