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  • URGENT HELP County court claim Britannia Parking Defense letter Deadline approaching!

    {See my last reply for an update)
    Dear All

    This is my 1st time having to write a county court defense letter, I have read through the posts in the newbies thread and I have written my 1st draft. I really need help as soon as possible as the deadline is this week. I been receiving these letters late due to moving since the parking fine was issued hence and now has led to a county court claim. they are claiming for failing to make a valid payment but the initial ticket was paid in cash via the machine and discarded a few days later. BW Legal acted as though they were acting in my best interest trying to get me to admit to the claim.
    Here is my defense letter they were phoning me consistently trying to arrange payment without even hearing my side.


    The claim is denied in its entirety except where explicitly admitted here. I assert that I am not liable to the Claimant for the sum claimed, or any amount at all, for the following reasons, any one of which is fatal to the Claimant's case.
    1. The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contract Regulations 1999 applies
    2. There is no clear evidence or visible signage surrounding the area where the car was parked, Photos of the Vehicles licence plate were blurred, therefore does not offer a contract with the motorist
    3. The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013 applies
    4. The Claimant has no standing to bring a case, the contravention of claim stating ‘Failed to make a valid payment’ only revealing in & out times. When Driver admits to paying in cash to ticket via the machine.
    5. The charge is not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and is therefore an unenforceable penalty
    The claimant has not provided enough details in the particulars of claim to file a full defence. In particular, the full details of the contract which it is alleged was broken have never been provided. As the claimant has not provided this information, signage details have been inferred from stock photographs and the details may not be correct. Minor variants in text may occur. All references to signage therefore, are subject to change once the full particulars of claim have been provided. ......

    1) It is admitted that the defendant, XXXXXX XXXXX, residing at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx is the registered keeper of the vehicle.

    2) It is denied that any indemnity costs are owed and any debt is denied in its entirety.

    3) No evidence has been supplied by this claimant as to who parked the vehicle. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 there is no presumption in law as to who parked a vehicle on private land nor does there exist any obligation for a keeper to name a driver. I choose to defend this claim as the registered keeper, as is my right.

    4) This is a completely unsubstantiated and inflated three-figure sum, vaguely and incoherently adduced by the claimant's solicitors in their claim. The Particulars are not clear and concise, so I have had to cover all eventualities in defending a 'cut & paste' claim. This has caused significant distress and has denied me a fair chance to defend this claim in an informed way.

    5) As an unrepresented litigant-in-person I respectfully ask that I be permitted to amend and or supplement this interim defence as may be required following a fuller disclosure of the Claimant's case.

    6) This claim contravention merely states: “Failed to make a valid payment” and shows an in and out time equalling 1 hour 12mins which does not give any indication of how the payment was Invalid on what basis the claim is brought. For example whether this charge is founded upon an allegation of trespass or 'breach of contract' or contractual 'unpaid fees'. Nor are any clear times/dates or coherent grounds for any lawful claim particularised, nor were any details provided to evidence any contract created nor any copy of this contract, nor explanation for the vague description 'parking charges' and 'indemnity costs'.
    7) The Driver admitted to purchasing a ticket and paid for in cash via the ticket machine but had thrown away the ticket a few days later. In The claimants evidence you can see a blurred white ticket beneath the windscreen of the Vehicle, as the defendant I asked the claimants solicitors BW LEGAL for the claimant to provide the data received from the ticketing machine to prove a valid payment was made. The request was ignored and blurred images of the vehicle in question were sent however the licence plate was unclear.

    8) The Claimant’s solicitors BW LEGAL are known to be a serial issuer of generic claims similar to this one, with no due diligence, no scrutiny of details or even checking for a true cause of action. In the first instance they were misleading in attempted to the defendant’s personal information by offering misrepresentation trying to provoke admission to the claim. They rang & message the defendant almost every day trying to arrange payment. HMCS have identified over 1000 similar poorly produced claims and the solicitor's conduct in many of these cases is believed to be currently the subject of an active investigation by the SRA.

    9) I believe the term for such conduct is ‘robo-claims’ which is against the public interest, demonstrates a disregard for the dignity of the court and is unfair on unrepresented consumers. I have reason to believe that this is a claim that will proceed without any facts or evidence supplied until the last possible minute, to my significant detriment as an unrepresented Defendant.

    10) I suggest that parking companies using the small claims track as a form of aggressive, automated debt collection is not something the courts should be seen to support.

    11) It is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. The proper Claimant (if any debt exists, which is denied) would be the landowner.

    12) The alleged debt as described in the claim are unenforceable penalties, being just the sort of unconscionable charges exposed as offending against the penalty rule, in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis.

    13. The claimant may try to rely upon ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, ('the Beavis case') yet such an assertion is not supported by any similarity in the location, circumstances nor signage. Absent any offer or agreement or even any licence to park without a permit, the Beavis case does not assist the claimant and in fact, supports my defence. If the driver on the date of the event was considered to be a trespasser if not allowed to park there, then only the landowner can pursue a case under the tort of trespass, not this Claimant. As the Supreme Court in the Beavis case held, ParkingEye would not have been able to recover any sum without agreement on the charge and any issue of trespass would be limited to the landowner themselves claiming for a nominal sum. The amount claimed is an extravagant and unconscionable penalty. Even if all the conditions had been met to disengage the penalty, the Supreme Court in ParkingEye v Beavis was only prepared to accept a charge (£85) that was sufficient to act as a disincentive and that was worth collecting. The Supreme Court had previously stated that £135 would be unacceptable ( ParkingEye v Somerfield).
    In summary this case differs to 'the Beavis case' as:
    i) The Private Parking Charge has not followed an "effectively binding" code of practice.
    ii) The Claimant has no commercial justification
    iii) The Claimant did not follow the IPC or BPA Code of Practice
    iv) The Claimant is not the landowner and suffers no loss whatsoever as a result of a vehicle parking at the location in question
    v) The amount claimed is a charge and evidently disproportionate to any loss suffered by the Claimant and is therefore unconscionable.

    14) Notwithstanding that the Claimant claims no right to pursue the Defendant as the registered keeper under The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, the Claimant has failed to meet the conditions of the Act and has never acquired any right to pursue the Defendant in this capacity if it cannot identify the driver. This distinguishes the case from Elliott vs Loake(1982) in which there was irrefutable evidence of the drivers identity. The Protection of Freedom Act 2012 Schedule 4 has not being complied with and the claimant may not quote reasonable assumption. PATAS and POPLA Lead Adjudicator and barrister, Henry Michael Greenslade, clarified that with regards to keeper liability, "There is no ‘reasonable presumption’ in law that the registered keeper of a vehicle is the driver and operators should never suggest anything of the sort"(2015).

    15) It is submitted that (apart from properly incurred court fees) any added legal fees/costs are simply numbers made up out of thin air, and are an attempt at double recovery by the Claimant, which would not be recoverable in the small claims court. The lack of diligence in this claim demonstrates admirably that at best a ‘copy and paste' is the closest a human, legally trained or not, came to the information transmitted from claimant to the Money Claims Online system. There are no real costs and POFA prevents claims exceeding the sum on the original parking notice.
    16) It is asserted that no reasonable person, of whatever means, would willingly agree to pay a charge of £100 as a consequence of staying over time or for whatever reason the unclear contravention claim states, if they had the opportunity to negotiate the contract on equal terms with the other contracting party.
    17) It is asserted that any competent solicitor would have negotiated the charge to be equal to a genuine pre-estimate of loss, being the normal legal situation provided for by the national law in force.

    18) It is denied that there was any 'relevant obligation' or 'relevant contract' relating to any single parking event. Thus there being no picture evidence of the Vehicle parked in the location surrounded by any clear visible signage conveying the contract in question.

    19. In the pre court stage the Claimant’s solicitor refused to provide me with the necessary information The defendant requested in order to defend the driver against the alleged debt, The Defendant explained they had moved and provided them the correct address however letters thereafter continued to be sent to the wrong address hence not allowing enough for alternative dispute resolution via POPLA, as The Defendant received letters late a number of times including the county court letters.


    20. The defendant denies the claim in its entirety voiding any liability to the claimant for all amounts claimed due to the aforementioned reasons. It is submitted that the conduct of the Claimant is wholly unreasonable and vexatious. As such, I am keeping a note of my wasted time/costs in dealing with this matter.

    21. The Defendant requests the court strike out this claim for the reasons stated above, and for similar reasons cited by District Judge Cross of St Albans County Court on 20/09/16 where a similar claim was struck out without a hearing, due to Gladstones' template particulars for a private parking firm being 'incoherent', failing to comply with CPR16.4, and ''providing no facts that could give rise to any apparent claim in law''.

    Statement of Truth: I confirm that the contents of this statement are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.


    Please let me know if this is ok as I need to send this as soon as possible
    Attached Files
    original pcn claim letter
    Last edited by Adriana; 26th September 2019, 13:15:PM.

  • #2
    If you have not already done so, I would suggest that you also post this at the following pepipoo forum which focuses entirely on parking matters.

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=60

    What is the date of issue on the claim form?

    Have you acknowledged service?

    Comment


    • #3
      Hi, thanks for responding, I will post on their now, and Yes I have done the acknowledged of service online on 22nd February when I actually got hold the papers, The issue at was the 11th February.

      Comment


      • #4
        You've left your vehicle reg visible (Particulars of Claim).
        1. The charge is not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and is therefore an unenforceable penalty
        Is pretty much dead in the water since the ParkingEye v Beavis case.....but it's worth a punt anyway!
        Last edited by charitynjw; 11th March 2019, 16:52:PM.
        CAVEAT LECTOR

        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
        Cohen, Herb


        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
        gets his brain a-going.
        Phelps, C. C.


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        • #5
          Here is my 2nd draft using bargepoles example what do you think

          IN THE COUNTY COURT
          CLAIM No: xxxxxxxxxx

          BETWEEN:

          NCP (Claimant)

          -and-

          xxxxxxxxxxxx (Defendant)

          ________________________________________
          DEFENCE
          ________________________________________

          1. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.

          2. The facts are that the vehicle, registration XXXX, of which the Defendant is the registered keeper, was parked on the material date in a private car park at XXXX Business Park, and The Driver had paid for a valid ticket via the pay & display machine.

          3. The Particulars of Claim state that the Defendant XXX; was the registered keeper and/or the driver of the vehicle XXX. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action, and is simply offering a menu of choices. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5. Further, the particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached.

          4. Further and in the alternative, it is denied that the claimant's signage sets out the terms in a sufficiently clear manner which would be capable of binding any reasonable person reading them.

          4.1 Claimant states The Defendant made an invalid payment but doesn’t specify how.

          5. The terms on the Claimant's signage are also displayed in areas not visible to where the car was parked and from any passing vehicle, and is in such a position that anyone attempting to read the tiny font would be unable to do so easily. It is, therefore, denied that the Claimant's signage is capable of creating a legally binding contract.

          6. Harassment and distress.
          The Claimant's Litigation department's continued contact and demands for money have represented a significant nuisance that is continuing to affect The Defendants peace of mind and distracting The Defendant from their work and my daily life. The Claimant's Litigation department has been misleading about the law towards the Defendant and makes continuous phone calls pretending they want The Defendant to telephone them so that they can help "resolve the matter" when instead they are attempting to provoke an admission from the Defendant in order to transfer money to the Claimant.

          7. The Particulars of Claim state that the Claimant's claim is for the sum of £238.64 being monies due from the Defendant to the Claimant in respect of a PCN for a parking contravention which occurred on XXXXXX in relation to a vehicle registration mark XXXXX. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5.
          Further, the particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached.

          8. Due to the sparseness of the particulars, it is unclear as to what legal basis the claim is brought, whether for breach of contract, contractual liability, or trespass. However, it is denied that the Defendant, or any driver of the vehicle, entered into any contractual agreement with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.


          9. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or that it has the necessary authorisation from the landowner to issue parking charge notices, and to pursue payment by means of litigation.

          10. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100.
          In addition to the 'parking charge', the Claimant's legal representatives, BWLegal, have artificially inflated the value of the Claim by adding costs of £60 which has not actually been incurred by the Claimant, and which are artificially invented figures in an attempt to circumvent the Small Claims costs rules using double recovery.
          The claim includes an additional £78.64, for which appears to be an attempt at double recovery.

          10. In summary, it is the Defendant's position that the claim discloses no cause of action, is without merit, and has no real prospect of success. Accordingly, the Court is invited to strike out the claim of its own initiative, using its case management powers pursuant to CPR 3.4.
          I believe the facts contained in this Defence are true.

          Name
          Signature
          Date

          Comment


          • #6
            The statement of truth should be in a discrete paragraph.

            Re the signage could you use?

            Lord Denning's 'Red Hand Rule'

            J Spurling Ltd v Bradshaw [1956]

            "I quite agree that the more unreasonable a clause is, the greater the notice which must be given of it. Some clauses which I have seen would need to be printed in red ink on the face of the document with a red hand pointing to it before the notice could be held to be sufficient."

            Repeated by Lord Denning in Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking [1970]

            "All I say is that it is so wide and so destructive of rights that the court should not hold any man bound by it unless it is drawn to his attention in the most explicit way. It is an instance of what I had in mind in J Spurling Ltd v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461, 466. In order to give sufficient notice, it would need to be printed in red ink with a red hand pointing to it - or something equally startling"

            The more onerous a contract term is, the more obvious it should be.

            Also see Consumer Rights Act 2015 s64

            **How do you propose to file this at court?**
            CAVEAT LECTOR

            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb


            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.


            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

            Comment


            • #7
              Here is my 3rd Draft I have to finalise this today!, I have added a section about grace periods and put charitynjw suggested quote about the signage, bargepole, mystery1 ostell could you also help me this as I've seen on threads that you have also helped people win cases to.


              IN THE COUNTY COURT
              CLAIM No: xxxxxxxxxx

              BETWEEN:

              NCP (Claimant)

              -and-

              xxxxxxxxxxxx (Defendant)

              ________________________________________
              DEFENCE
              ________________________________________

              1. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.

              2. The facts are that the vehicle, registration XXXX, of which the Defendant is the registered keeper, was parked on the material date in a private car park at XXXX Business Park, and The Driver had paid for a valid ticket via the pay & display machine.

              3. The Particulars of Claim state that the Defendant XXX; was the registered keeper and/or the driver of the vehicle XXX. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action, and is simply offering a menu of choices. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5. Further, the particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached.


              4. Further and in the alternative, it is denied that the claimant's signage sets out the terms in a sufficiently clear manner which would be capable of binding any reasonable person reading them.

              4.1. The terms on the Claimant's signage are also displayed in areas not visible to where the car was parked and from any passing vehicle, and is in such a position that anyone attempting to read the tiny font would be unable to do so easily. It is, therefore, denied that the Claimant's signage is capable of creating a legally binding contract.
              4.2 Use Lord Denning's 'Red Hand Rule' for example

              J Spurling Ltd v Bradshaw [1956]

              "I quite agree that the more unreasonable a clause is, the greater the notice which must be given of it. Some clauses which I have seen would need to be printed in red ink on the face of the document with a red hand pointing to it before the notice could be held to be sufficient."

              Repeated by Lord Denning in Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking [1970]

              "All I say is that it is so wide and so destructive of rights that the court should not hold any man bound by it unless it is drawn to his attention in the most explicit way. It is an instance of what I had in mind in J Spurling Ltd v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461, 466. In order to give sufficient notice, it would need to be printed in red ink with a red hand pointing to it - or something equally startling"

              4.3 The more onerous a contract term is, the more obvious it should be.
              5.Claimant states in the original PCN that The Defendant made an invalid payment but doesn’t specify how.
              6. No period of grace given for the driver to read the additional signs within the car park, or to exit the car park following the parking period.
              7. Photographs taken show merely the time of entry into and exit from the car park but do not establish the time at which the car was parked.


              8. The driver of the car at the time was captured by ANPR cameras driving in to the car park at 18:24 and driving out at 19:36 on the same date. They were unable to park immediately upon entering the car park and on top of that time to digest, read and understand the poorly laid out sign.
              9, The BPA Code of Practice (13.2) states that parking operators "should allow the driver a reasonable ‘grace period’ in which to decide if they are going to stay or go. If the driver is on your land without permission, you should still allow them a grace period to read your signs and leave before you take enforcement action." As stated previously, the entrance signs to this car park are insufficient to allow the driver to decide whether parking in the car park would breach any contract. The additional sign is within the car park and past the point where the ANPR camera has captured an entry time and therefore a grace period should be given to read the additional sign and decide whether to adhere to the terms of the contract or leave the car park.

              Kevin Reynolds, Head of Public Affairs and Policy at BPA states that:

              ‘There is a difference between ‘grace’ periods and ‘observation’ periods in parking and that good practice allows for this.

              “An observation period is the time when an enforcement officer should be able to determine what the motorist intends to do once in the car park. The BPA’s guidance specifically says that there must be sufficient time for the motorist to park their car, observe the signs, decide whether they want to comply with the operator’s conditions and either drive away or pay for a ticket,” he explains.

              “No time limit is specified. This is because it might take one person five minutes, but another person 10 minutes depending on various factors, not limited to disability.”

              9.1 The BPA’s guidance defines the ‘grace period’ as the time allowed after permitted or paid-for parking has expired but before any kind of enforcement takes place.

              Kelvin continues: “In the instance of a PCN being issued while a ticket is being purchased, the operator has clearly not given the motorist sufficient time to read the signs and comply as per the operator’s own rules. If a motorist decides they do not want to comply and leaves the car park, then a reasonable period of time should be provided also.”’

              In addition, the BPA Code of Practice (13.4) states that the parking operators “should allow the driver a reasonable period to leave the private car park after the parking contract has ended, before you take enforcement action. If the location is one where parking is normally permitted”

              9.2 During a BPA Professional Development and Standards Board meeting in July 2015 it was formally agreed that relevant changes to the Code of Practice would be made to ensure compliance with the DfT guidelines regarding grace periods.

              10. Harassment and distress.
              The Claimant's Litigation department's continued contact and demands for money have represented a significant nuisance that is continuing to affect The Defendants peace of mind and distracting The Defendant from their work and my daily life. The Claimant's Litigation department has been misleading about the law towards the Defendant and makes continuous phone calls pretending they want The Defendant to telephone them so that they can help "resolve the matter" when instead they are attempting to provoke an admission from the Defendant in order to transfer money to the Claimant.

              11. The Particulars of Claim state that the Claimant's claim is for the sum of £238.64 being monies due from the Defendant to the Claimant in respect of a PCN for a parking contravention which occurred on XXXXXX in relation to a vehicle registration mark XXXXX. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5.
              Further, the particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached.

              12. Due to the sparseness of the particulars, it is unclear as to what legal basis the claim is brought, whether for breach of contract, contractual liability, or trespass. However, it is denied that the Defendant, or any driver of the vehicle, entered into any contractual agreement with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.

              13. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or that it has the necessary authorisation from the landowner to issue parking charge notices, and to pursue payment by means of litigation.

              14. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100.
              In addition to the 'parking charge', the Claimant's legal representatives, BWLegal, have artificially inflated the value of the Claim by adding costs of £60 which has not actually been incurred by the Claimant, and which are artificially invented figures in an attempt to circumvent the Small Claims costs rules using double recovery.
              The claim includes an additional £78.64, for which appears to be an attempt at double recovery.

              15. In summary, it is the Defendant's position that the claim discloses no cause of action, is without merit, and has no real prospect of success. Accordingly, the Court is invited to strike out the claim of its own initiative, using its case management powers pursuant to CPR 3.4.

              Statement of Truth
              I believe the facts contained in this Defence are true to best of my knowledge & understanding.

              Name
              Signature
              Date

              Comment


              • #8
                I've been told on another post in a different forum that all i need to send is something short like this,


                so are you saying that all i need to send is something like this,

                1. The Defendant is the registered keeper of a [colour] [model] Toyota motor car, registered number [number] ('the Car').

                2. It is admitted that the car was present at [location] at [time] on [date].

                3. It is denied that the Defendant has any liability to the Claimant in the sum claimed or at all. This is because neither the Defendant nor anyone acting on their behalf entered into any contract with the Claimant on the date stated or at all.

                The above is written on the basis that:

                (a) the statements in it are true (because you will commit a contempt of court if you sign a statement of truth without an honest belief in the truth of the statements. You could go to prison).
                (b) the signs at the site are indeed insufficient to form a contract.
                (c) that you were not the driver.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Personally I wouldn't add (a), but the rest is fine.
                  CAVEAT LECTOR

                  This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                  You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                  Cohen, Herb


                  There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                  gets his brain a-going.
                  Phelps, C. C.


                  "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                  The last words of John Sedgwick

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    So Shall I not submit my 3rd draft in post #7 or shall I submit that simple version in post #8

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I'd go for post #7, myself.
                      CAVEAT LECTOR

                      This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                      You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                      Cohen, Herb


                      There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                      gets his brain a-going.
                      Phelps, C. C.


                      "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                      The last words of John Sedgwick

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Thank you as so much for your help charitynjw Im going to submit it today, just to make sure is the grace period section in point 9 which i recently added, to long winded or would it be ok to send as it is?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          It's fine....send as is.

                          It might be too big to send via MCOL website, but can be sent as an email attachment to CCBC Northampton..... moneyclaims@justice.gov.uk

                          Put the claim ref no + 'Defence' in the email subject box.

                          Should look like https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...-court-claims/
                          CAVEAT LECTOR

                          This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                          You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                          Cohen, Herb


                          There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                          gets his brain a-going.
                          Phelps, C. C.


                          "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                          The last words of John Sedgwick

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Just to let you all know I WON THE CASE!!!!

                            I can confirm that BW LEGAL is a completely dogdy company who even continued to pursue me after Britannia parking discontinued the case. I refused Mediation and to settle out of court. They had no intention of attending court and tried to make some pay by any means nesscessary for lowering the requested to fee to settle fourteen days before court. Although I found out that Britanna parking settling the case with them weeks before.

                            I contacted the court to put in a new counterclaim from myself as the defendant based on recent events that has happened after a letter of discontinuence as sent.

                            I have been battleling with BW legal who have been pursuing me on behalf of Britannia parking for a private parking ticket that I know was intially paid and the company have not stated a valid reason for the pursual. They have change the price of the charge a number of times and I have not admitted liability for this claim and instructed that they take me to court take to stop this pursuit.

                            Over the last year I have filled out all the necessary documents for this case without legal representation to defend myself. Whilst I was away BW Legal sent me a settlement letter for £100 to close the case giving me a deadline for 16th September, I did not plan to settle this case beacuse I know I was in the right. However on the 19th of september I realised I was unable to send my witness statements of to the court and I feared that this would hurt my case and didnt get the time of work to attend the hearing.

                            Due to lack of legal knowledge I called BW legal on the 19th thinking that I had to pay £100 because I could not attend hearing however i did not admit liabilty. Unknowingly to me I was unware that Britanna parking had already discontinued the whole claim of the case and BW legal were no longer representing Britannia Parking about this claim as of the 18th When the letter was signed on their behalf to myself and to the Court and also email were confirmed with Britannia parking on the same day at 15.53. I believe I had a right to be made aware of this immediately when I spoke with them on the 19th, they purposelfully left this information out over the phone and were manipulative in their pursuit and taking advantage of the situation due to my lack of legal knowledge.

                            I didnt recieve the letter of discontinuence of the claim untill Friday 20th September, If I was made aware of this earlier I would not have paid the £100 fee as the letter stated that I didnt have pay anything. I called BW legal and they were continually refusing to refund me the £100 and gave no justfied reason and they wouldnt even let me talk to a manager or lititgation team.

                            I was extremely annoyed by this and called Britanna parking directly and they confirmed with me that hey had no intention of attending court and requested to close all claims for the case from 10th September , I told them I will be requesting to reopen the case and counterclaiming against them and BW legal. They immediately contacted BW legal team to dispute the extra claims on my behalf and they have made BW legal refund the £100 back to me so that I wont counter claim. This has now been confirmed in the writing and the case has been discontinued and BW legal and Britanna parking will no longer be pursuing me

                            Long story short dont give up! fight them untill the end ! dont allow them to make you feel like because your not legally trained that you dont know your rights!
                            Last edited by Adriana; 26th September 2019, 13:33:PM.

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                              So Britannia instructed BW to discontinue the claim on the 10th September.

                              This was actioned and you received a copy of the notice of discontinuance on the 20th Sept.

                              However on the 19th you'd called BW Legal and agreed to settle the case for £100 due to your concerns about submitting witness statements on time and not being able to get time off to attend the hearing.

                              Despite having already sent the notice of discontinuance out ( what date was on the NoD?) BW accepted your payment.

                              After some argument BW have refunded you that £100.

                              Is that correct ?

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