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    Good morning,

    I wonder if you could help me out.
    I have received Claim Form from BWlegal for sum of around £1500, regtarding 8 parking tickets in my own parking space, where I live for 3 years.
    I have done AoS already, and intend to defend it.


    Background is that begining of this year so called a "parking enforcment company have changed", and changed the signs etc.
    I and started to give PCN's. Afdter some forward and backwards of emails, that I have not received my parking permit.
    I finally got one. after being charged so many times.
    Obviously getting tired of them I ignored all the letters also from BWElegal.

    So far I have sent a letter to BWlegal stating 3 points from newbie section.

    "(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
    (b) I have sent your client a SAR
    (c) also confirm your correct 'address for service' if you've moved and the PPC has two addresses."



    Defence what I want to base it on firstly would be:

    Countrywide Parking Management Ltd
    PO Box 9529
    Poole
    BH12 9NT

    - and -
    Andrejs
    (Defendant)
    _________________
    DEFENCE

    1. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was in breach of any term. Further, it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as agents) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the boilerplate text in the Particulars of Claim ('the POC').



    The facts known to the Defendant:
    2. It is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle.



    3. The Defendant requested parking permit from Claimant, to be, sent to his address multiple times. Which resulted in multiple PCN’s. The defendant has received no notice of new parking regulator, only parking charge where on multiple occasions was deemed that parking charge notice is invalid.

    4. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief. Conversely. the Defendant observes after researching other parking claims with the same POC that this claim sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent statement of case. The POC is sparse on facts and specific breach allegation, making it very difficult to respond. The Defendant avers that this claim is unfair and inflated and it is denied that any sum is due, whether in debt or damages.
    Exaggerated Claim and 'market failure' currently being addressed by the Government
    5. The alleged 'core debt' from any parking charge cannot have exceeded £100 (the industry cap). It is denied that any 'Debt Fees' or damages were actually paid or incurred by this Claimant, who is put to strict proof of:
    (i). the alleged breach, which is not pleaded in the POC and thus requires further and better particulars, and
    (ii). a breakdown of how they arrived at the enhanced sum in the POC, including how interest has been calculated, which looks to have been applied improperly on the entire inflated sum, as if that figure was overdue on the day of the alleged event.
    6. This Claimant routinely pursues a disproportionate fixed sum (inexplicably added per PCN) despite knowing that the will of Parliament is to ban or substantially reduce added 'damages/fees'. This case is a classic example where adding exaggerated fees encourages the 'numbers game' of out of control bulk litigation of weak and/or archive parking cases. MoJ statistics of bulk litigators reveal that there are hundreds of thousands of parking claims per annum, with some 90% causing default CCJs totalling hundreds of millions of pounds. No checks and balances are likely to have been made to ensure facts, merit or a proper cause of action, given away by the woefully inadequate POC.
    7. The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities ('the DLUHC') first published a statutory Parking Code of Practice in February 2022, here: https://www.gov.uk/government/public...de-of-practice. in which the Ministerial Foreword was damning: "Private firms issue roughly 22,000 parking tickets every day, often adopting a labyrinthine system of misleading and confusing signage, opaque appeals services, aggressive debt collection and unreasonable fees designed to extort money from motorists."
    8. Despite legal challenges delaying the Code's implementation (marking it as temporarily 'withdrawn') a draft Impact Assessment (IA) to finalise it was published on 30th July 2023. The Government's analysis has exposed what they state are industry-gleaned facts about supposed 'Debt Fees'. The analysis is found here: https://assets.publishing.service.go..._Practice_.pdf
    9. Paragraphs 4.31 and 5.19 state that the parking industry has shown the DLUHC that the true minor cost of what the parking industry calls debt recovery or 'enforcement' ( = pre-action) stage totals a mere £8.42 per recovery case (not per PCN).
    10. With that sum in mind, it is clear that the extant claim has been enhanced by an extreme amount, disingenuously added as a 'fee'. This is believed to be routinely retained by the litigating legal team and in this Claim it is additional to the intended 'legal representatives fees' cap set within the small claims track rules. This conduct has been examined and found - including in a detailed judgment by Her Honour Judge Jackson, now a specialist Civil High Court Judge on the Leeds/Bradford circuit - to constitute 'double recovery' and the Defendant takes that position.
    11. The new draft IA now demonstrates that the unnecessarily intimidating letter-chains actually cost 'eight times less' (says the DLUHC analysis) than what may be viewed as a 'price-fixed' £70 per PCN. This causes consumer harm in the form of hundreds of thousands of inflated CCJs each year that District Judges have been powerless to prevent. This abusively enhanced 'industry standard' Debt Fee was enabled by the self-serving Codes of Practice of the rival parking Trade Bodies which were suddenly aligned in 2021 on adding £70, influenced by a Board of parking operators and debt firms who stood to gain from it.
    12. It is denied that the purported damages or Debt Fee sought was incurred or is recoverable. Attention is drawn to paras 98, 100, 193, 198 of ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC67 ('the Beavis case'). Also ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd ChD [2011] EWHC 4023(QB) where the parking charge was £75, discounted to £37.50 for prompt payment. Whilst £75 was reasonable, HHJ Hegarty (decision later ratified by the CoA) held in paras 419-428 that unspecified 'admin costs' inflating a parking charge to £135 was not a true reflection of the cost of a template letter and 'would appear to be penal'.
    13. This Claimant has not incurred any additional costs because the parking charge more than covers what the Supreme Court in the Beavis case called an 'automated letter-chain' business model that generates a healthy profit. In Beavis, there were 4 or 5 letters in total, including pre-action reminders. The £85 'PCN' was held to cover the costs of the operation. The DLUHC's IA suggests it appears to be the case that the parking charge itself more than covers the minor costs of pre-action letters, even if and when the Government reduces the PCN level.
    14. In addition, pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper. If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of POFA compliance.
    15. The Defendant avers that the Government's analysis now overrides mistakes made in appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy).
    16. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led by Counsel for parking firms against litigant-in-person consumers who lacked the wherewithal to appeal. The Defendant avers that errors and plainly wrong presumptions were made in each case. Evidence was either overlooked (including major evidence discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the parking contract in Beavis.
    17. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as 'consideration and grace periods' and minor human oversights such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where the Government says a PCN should not have been issued at all.
    18. Whilst the DLUHC Code is not retrospective, the majority of the clauses went unchallenged by the parking industry and the 2022 iteration stands to become a creature of statute to replace the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. More than once in the draft IA, the Secretary of State mentions they are addressing 'market failure' a phrase which is surely a clear steer for Courts in 2023 to scrutinise every aspect of claims like this one.
    19. For the avoidance of doubt, the Defendant avers that there was no agreement to pay a parking charge or added (false) fees/damages, which the Defendant believes were not not even incurred, let alone quantified in bold, prominent text (if at all). This Claimant failed to erect well-placed, large and readable signs on a par with the yellow & black warning signs seen in the Beavis case, and unlike the signage requirements set out in the DLUHC Code, which reflects the requirement for 'prominence' in the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (the 'CRA').

    CRA breaches
    20. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the CRA which introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes a test of fairness and clarity of 'signs & lines' and all communications intended to be read by consumers.
    21. Section 71 creates a statutory duty upon Courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well-placed (and lit in hours of darkness/dusk) and all terms must be unambiguous and contractual obligations clear.
    22. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the duties of fair/open dealing and good faith (NB: this does not necessarily mean there has to be a finding of bad faith).

    ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished
    23. Unlike in Beavis, the penalty rule remains engaged in this claim due to the unconscionable added 'Fee'. The CRA covers disproportionate sums, which are not exempt from being assessed for fairness because a late-added Fee is not the core parking price term and neither was it prominently proclaimed on the signs.
    24. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. Their small signs have vague/hidden terms and minuscule text, incapable of binding a driver. Court of Appeal authorities about a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge include:
    (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (Lord Denning's ‘red hand rule’) and
    (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2,
    both leading authorities that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and
    (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space''.
    25. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the DLUHC Code and these clauses stand unchallenged and are supported by the BPA & IPC. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike."

    Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR
    26. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority to form contracts at this site in their name. The Claimant is put to strict proof of their standing to litigate in their own name.
    27. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the DLUHC Code shows that genuine disputes such as this should see PCNs cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject most disputes: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (2020 Annual Report). The Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon their own 'appeals service' (described by MPs as a kangaroo court and about to be replaced by the DLUHC, who have in the IA criticised the lack of transparency or independence) should lead Judges to realise that a truly fair appeal was never on offer.

    Conclusion
    28. The claim is entirely without merit and the POC embarrassing. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale.
    29. There is now evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. The July 2023 DLUHC IA analysis surely makes that clear because it is now a matter of record that the industry has told the Government that 'debt recovery' costs eight times less than the sum claimed in almost every case.
    30. In the matter of costs, the Defendant seeks:
    (a) standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and
    (b) a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, and further costs pursuant to CPR 46.5.
    31. Attention is drawn to the (often-seen) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not 'normally' apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))."

    Statement of Truth
    I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.






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  • #2
    Based on the MSE template defence?
    Paras should be suitably spaced.

    r.27.14(2)(dg)? No such thing.
    https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/pr...l/rules/part27

    You cite a number of court cases in the defence.
    Out of interest, do you have copies of them/?
    Have you read them?
    Last edited by charitynjw; 16th August 2023, 19:56:PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
      Based on the MSE template defence?
      Paras should be suitably spaced.
      r.27.14(2)(dg)? No such thing.
      https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/pr...l/rules/part27
      Good evening. yes based on MSE.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Andrejs View Post

        Good evening. yes based on MSE.
        Hi.

        I added a bit to my previous post.
        CAVEAT LECTOR

        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
        Cohen, Herb


        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
        gets his brain a-going.
        Phelps, C. C.


        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
        The last words of John Sedgwick

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        • #5
          In my opinion that template defence is naff to say the least. It refers to the DLUHC Code but that isn't even in force at the moment so I'm not sure how you can base a defence on something that has no legal effect, even retrospectively. Any defence should be based on the laws and regulations at the time of the alleged incident. The defence also refers to case law and seems to put arguments about something that I presume wasn't stated in the particulars of claim, which is typically not allowed because a defence is supposed to be a statement of facts, not an opportunity to argue your case.

          All defences should be bespoke to the situation and personally I would re-draft that entirely if it was me as it does not appear to be based on your current situation with the parking co.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by R0b View Post
            In my opinion that template defence is naff to say the least. It refers to the DLUHC Code but that isn't even in force at the moment so I'm not sure how you can base a defence on something that has no legal effect, even retrospectively. Any defence should be based on the laws and regulations at the time of the alleged incident. The defence also refers to case law and seems to put arguments about something that I presume wasn't stated in the particulars of claim, which is typically not allowed because a defence is supposed to be a statement of facts, not an opportunity to argue your case.

            All defences should be bespoke to the situation and personally I would re-draft that entirely if it was me as it does not appear to be based on your current situation with the parking co.
            Agreed.
            Coupled with the fact that judges must see the same cut'n'paste Particulars & defences over & over again, ad nauseam.
            Hence my (polite) enquiry as to whether cases cited have been read/understood.
            OPS v Wilshaw on appeal? If anyone can find a useable copy of that judgment, please, please, provide a link.

            I'm not in any way criticising the excellent info on MSE...those people know their onions.
            But imho, anyone filing a defence should have a fair idea of what the contents actually mean.
            Last edited by charitynjw; 17th August 2023, 08:31:AM.
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            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb


            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.


            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

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            • #7
              The OP needs to get across as clearly as he can the basis on which he was entitled to park in 'his' space. If that is mentioned, I cannot see it in the forest of words.
              Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

              Litigants in Person should download and read this: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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              • #8
                Originally posted by charitynjw View Post

                Agreed.
                Coupled with the fact that judges must see the same cut'n'paste Particulars & defences over & over again, ad nauseam.
                Hence my (polite) enquiry as to whether cases cited have been read/understood.
                OPS v Wilshaw on appeal? If anyone can find a useable copy of that judgment, please, please, provide a link.

                I'm not in any way criticising the excellent info on MSE...those people know their onions.
                But imho, anyone filing a defence should have a fair idea of what the contents actually mean.
                I don't have an issue with the content as such it's just that somewhere someone needs to confirm that they need to remove any irrelevant paragraphs that don't apply to their specific dispute. In fact, as I read that template there doesn't appear to be any points related to the defence of whether or not the OP has (a) entered into a contract and (b) committed a breach of contract and (c) liable for the sums claimed for breach of contract.

                The general rule is that if you deny something then you must give reasons why, but if you don't deny, then you are deemed to have admitted that particular point. If this is used on a regular basis and if the parking companies actually had any nouse, I would be advising them to make an application to request summary judgment on the basis that there has been no denial that a contract was not entered into and no denial that there was a breach so the OP is taken to have admitted those allegations, easy win. At best, there is a bare denial but even that is weak in my view.

                And this line... The claim is entirely without merit and the POC embarrassing ... is embarrassing to say in a defence which is pointless and doesn't actually achieve anything. I didn't even realise people still continue to use this phrase.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by R0b View Post

                  I don't have an issue with the content as such it's just that somewhere someone needs to confirm that they need to remove any irrelevant paragraphs that don't apply to their specific dispute. In fact, as I read that template there doesn't appear to be any points related to the defence of whether or not the OP has (a) entered into a contract and (b) committed a breach of contract and (c) liable for the sums claimed for breach of contract.

                  The general rule is that if you deny something then you must give reasons why, but if you don't deny, then you are deemed to have admitted that particular point. If this is used on a regular basis and if the parking companies actually had any nouse, I would be advising them to make an application to request summary judgment on the basis that there has been no denial that a contract was not entered into and no denial that there was a breach so the OP is taken to have admitted those allegations, easy win. At best, there is a bare denial but even that is weak in my view.

                  And this line... The claim is entirely without merit and the POC embarrassing ... is embarrassing to say in a defence which is pointless and doesn't actually achieve anything. I didn't even realise people still continue to use this phrase.
                  Good afternoon,

                  This is why I am kindly asking for help with this defence.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Andrejs View Post

                    Good afternoon,

                    This is why I am kindly asking for help with this defence.
                    Well, I think we do need some additional background information to understand how your defence could be formulated. You say that you have been parking in your own space for the last 3 years, so:

                    1. Do you own the property and parking on a freehold basis, is it on a lease or are you a tenant renting the property?

                    2. Depending on the response above, do you have a copy of your title deeds, lease or tenancy contract and is there anything in there to say you have to comply with any parking restrictions or conditions or anything that might indicate that management have the right to impose conditions on the car park or something to that effect?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by R0b View Post

                      Well, I think we do need some additional background information to understand how your defence could be formulated. You say that you have been parking in your own space for the last 3 years, so:

                      1. Do you own the property and parking on a freehold basis, is it on a lease or are you a tenant renting the property?

                      2. Depending on the response above, do you have a copy of your title deeds, lease or tenancy contract and is there anything in there to say you have to comply with any parking restrictions or conditions or anything that might indicate that management have the right to impose conditions on the car park or something to that effect?
                      Good day,

                      I rent an apartment, and no there is no such a thing in my tenancy contract that states I have to comply with my parking restrictions and conditions.

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                      • #12
                        So that is your primary argument for your defence, that you are not bound by those terms and conditions from the parking company as it is not in your tenancy agreement. Just so I understand, the tenancy contract gives you a right to park, and if so does it specify a car parking space, number or does it just say a parking space is included, or something else?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by R0b View Post
                          So that is your primary argument for your defence, that you are not bound by those terms and conditions from the parking company as it is not in your tenancy agreement. Just so I understand, the tenancy contract gives you a right to park, and if so does it specify a car parking space, number or does it just say a parking space is included, or something else?
                          My tenancy agreement ended some time ago, and I rent privately, so there is not any rules that bound me to anything?!

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                          • #14
                            I think you are making this more complicated than it really should be. No sensible landlord would rent a property without a valid contract in place with the tenant, unless they are a little bit dodgy.

                            The phrase “renting privately” serves no useful purpose in this context and could mean anything. Either (1) your tenancy contract is terminated and therefore you would have no rights as a tenant or individual to live in that property or the right to park your car in the parking space as you claim or (2) you have a tenancy agreement but the fixed term you agreed to has expired and now you run month to month or (3) there is no tenancy agreement and your private rental is nothing more than a verbal agreement or (4) something else in which case please explain.



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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by R0b View Post
                              I think you are making this more complicated than it really should be. No sensible landlord would rent a property without a valid contract in place with the tenant, unless they are a little bit dodgy.

                              The phrase “renting privately” serves no useful purpose in this context and could mean anything. Either (1) your tenancy contract is terminated and therefore you would have no rights as a tenant or individual to live in that property or the right to park your car in the parking space as you claim or (2) you have a tenancy agreement but the fixed term you agreed to has expired and now you run month to month or (3) there is no tenancy agreement and your private rental is nothing more than a verbal agreement or (4) something else in which case please explain.


                              The tenancy agreement has ended and now as per paragraph in Tenancy agreement is month to month correct. Just checked now. And nothing mentioned regarding parking. So I take I am not bound by any TnC's as it is not stated in my tenancy agreement. I hope this rings a bell.

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