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  • RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

    Hi there! I'm new here, and as most people on this part of the forum, I made the stupid mistake of trying to steal a few small items from a retailer. The cost added up to around £25 and I've been fined £147.50 despite the whole incident taking less than an hour and all the items being recovered. As such there is no way that the costs involved added up to such a high number.
    I replied to RLP's first letter, simply asking how they came to those numbers and asking for any evidence they had against me, to which they basically only replied: "we are aware you have been seeking advice from the internet. Get a solicitor. Reply within 14 days."
    :laugh:
    They also said "Had you contacted us directly, we could have addressed all of your questions suitably to fit the specifics of your case."
    What does that even mean? I literally wrote to them. How is that not direct contact?
    I feel fairly confident that I'll be fine based on the precedent a retailer v miss b and miss k after reading the whole transcript, as I understand how that works, but I'n not very well versed in the civil recovery department (although I am a law student.) So I was wondering what I should do next? It seems many people here just say to ignore the letters and they'll go away?
    On the other hand would it be ok to reply to their letter simply refusing their demands and explaining why, or would that put me in a worse position?
    I was fairly scared when this whole thing started but now I'm pretty calm, just want it to end though.
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    Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

    Who has "Fined" you? RLP certainly haven't got the authority to fine you. As a law student you should know that !!

    The usual advice for RLP is Ignore Ignore Ignore. Come back if it gets to a court case. For further research search on RLP on this forum.

    Where all the items you were alleged to have stolen returned to the store in a saleable condition? If they were then there has been no loss. As you are now aware, from the Oxford case, security staff were doing the job they were paid for and therefore no loss there. Where were you stopped, inside or outside the store? Where the police called and attended?

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    • #3
      Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

      Originally posted by Anongirl View Post
      So I was wondering what I should do next? It seems many people here just say to ignore the letters and they'll go away?
      On the other hand would it be ok to reply to their letter simply refusing their demands and explaining why, or would that put me in a worse position?
      The tried & trusted approach is to ignore any correspondence from them, as tempting as it may be to respond. There is nothing to negotiate.

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      • #4
        Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

        Originally posted by Anongirl View Post
        I replied to RLP's first letter, simply asking how they came to those numbers and asking for any evidence they had against me, to which they basically only replied: "we are aware you have been seeking advice from the internet. Get a solicitor. Reply within 14 days."
        :laugh:
        Can you post up a redacted copy of the letter? Or ... email it to me to post up (see my signature)??

        I don't think I've ever seen a RLP letter mentioning "advice from the internet" before
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        • #5
          Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

          Ah, sorry, the word "fine" was simply poorly chosen!
          Everything was returned is perfect condition, I was with security for no more than 15 minutes, and the police weren't called. I was in and out of the store within 40 minutes altogether (detained outside of it), which is why I can't believe the costs would be anywhere near £150.
          If I ignore this, is there any kind of idea as to when they'll stop with the letters? Will they keep coming for months, years, decades? :O

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          • #6
            Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

            I have emailed you Kati. If anyone else would like a copy let me know and I'll email you, as I'd rather not have the letters displayed for anyone to see- as per my UN I'd rather remain anonymous if possible

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            • #7
              Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

              You can put up a letter with any identifying details removed. It's done on a regular basis.

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              • #8
                Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

                It was more because I know RLP are stalking these forums so I didn't really want them to know I was coming here for more help, but what the hell. After this they just said "Should you require any further information our staff are polite, well trained, and professional and are used to answering queries so that you can make an informed decision"
                "Please respond within 14 days, yours faithfully, Claims dept."

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                • #9
                  Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

                  Originally posted by Anongirl View Post
                  I have emailed you Kati. If anyone else would like a copy let me know and I'll email you, as I'd rather not have the letters displayed for anyone to see- as per my UN I'd rather remain anonymous if possible
                  could I redact it and post it up?? I'll make sure it won't be recognizable xx

                  EDIT: beat me to it :lol: xx
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                  I can be emailed if you need my help loading pictures/documents to your thread. My email address is Kati@legalbeagles.info
                  But please include a link to your thread so I know who you are.

                  Specialist advice can be sought via our sister site JustBeagle

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                  • #10
                    Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

                    I bet their first letter listing your options didn't include IGNORE

                    As you have already engaged with them, they will identify you as being concerned and therefore possibly an easy target.

                    Their letters generally last about 9 months, and towards the end include missives from DCAs and an offer to accept a reduced amount.
                    When you get there you'll know you are nearing the conclusion.

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                    • #11
                      Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

                      I have to agree. Any responses only seem to agitate and excite them! You've just made their fishing line bob up and down in the water so they think they've hooked a fish!
                      Im puzzled though, you've only posted here today so how can they know you're seeking advice from the net? Or did your letter refer to 'A Retailer v' which they tried their hardest to suppress on the Internet, so sadly they don't display a handy copy on their own website.....where you should have got advice!
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                      • #12
                        Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

                        Isn't the Internet clever.
                        It is able to advise you .
                        Wow never heard of that , what stupid prats

                        Saying that have you requested advice VIA the Internet on another forum?

                        As as others have advised I would ignore for now.

                        Note to rlp
                        inanimate objects can not advise
                        mind you there are some robots on here :-)

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                        • #13
                          Re: RLP: "We are aware you've been seeking advice from the internet"...

                          Perhaps the Interweb has finally evolved into a higher sentient 'collective conscience', which has managed to locate & instruct you.

                          One thing's for certain; you've definitely been in contact with the other end of the evolutionary spectrum! :biggrin1:
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