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civil recovery confusion
Ok the other day i went into Sainsburys , i purchased some meat some steak at a total of £16 and some veggies then proceeded to the self service till . Ive been suffering from bpv again and whilst walking round the store felt the dizziness getting worse ( its sort of like a brain fog with me like im not really there ) .Anyway i forgot to scan the meat which was at the bottom of my trolley i just completely forgot about it cant explain why i just did , add to the fact the first till i used played up and resulted in me having to use another . Anyway away i go off and outside the store , and out comes the security guard with the id like you to come back in the store sir routine .
I looked down and there in the trolley is the meat all £16 of pure rib eyed steak 4 of juicy and just waiting to be eaten , problem is i havent paid for them have i ? My heart skips a beat . Sorry i say realising almost right away the pointless gesture it is . Yeah Yeah the guard sneers come with me . So i follow protesting my innocence and looking all the more guilty . Then im in the office , the guard says we are calling the F ing Police and then invites me to watch a video of my oversight . I followed you all round the store he says you looked suspicious from the start he says . I tell him i object to his swearing and he squares upto me , im sitting in a seat with wheels on , i once again tell him not to tell me to shut up and to cease his swearing . Get out of my space he says and shoves me the chair rolls back and i bang my head on a steel and glass cabinet . At that moment the manager enters and tells me to calm down , though in pain from my head blow i suggest that the security guard is the person who is excited and not me she then tells him to calm down .
I am then kept for 3 hours until the police arrive , i tell the police of the matter and they ask if want to claim assault . Fearing this may delay my release i reject the chance . I am then questioned by the police who tell me that it doesnt look good and that a magistrate would not beleive me . I explain that i am more than happy to pay for the goods and have been all along . The officer goes away and then returns and says although he doesnt believe me i am free to go if a pay for the meat , i say i am happy to do so and i complete the transaction downstairs in the shop i am handed a banning order for life from all stores of sainsburys but not cautioned by the police in anyway or handed any notice of civil recovery intended litigation against me .
Am i right in thinking here that the matter is now closed as the store allowed me to pay for the item and thus are admitting that mine was but a human error free of malicious intent or theft ?
Or will i now receive a letter of civil recovery ?
One topic that is hard to find on the net is what happens if one just consistently ignores the court orders regardless, surely the only thing a civil court can do is instruct bailiffs to recover the debt , and without assets that path is extremely limited is it not ?
I looked down and there in the trolley is the meat all £16 of pure rib eyed steak 4 of juicy and just waiting to be eaten , problem is i havent paid for them have i ? My heart skips a beat . Sorry i say realising almost right away the pointless gesture it is . Yeah Yeah the guard sneers come with me . So i follow protesting my innocence and looking all the more guilty . Then im in the office , the guard says we are calling the F ing Police and then invites me to watch a video of my oversight . I followed you all round the store he says you looked suspicious from the start he says . I tell him i object to his swearing and he squares upto me , im sitting in a seat with wheels on , i once again tell him not to tell me to shut up and to cease his swearing . Get out of my space he says and shoves me the chair rolls back and i bang my head on a steel and glass cabinet . At that moment the manager enters and tells me to calm down , though in pain from my head blow i suggest that the security guard is the person who is excited and not me she then tells him to calm down .
I am then kept for 3 hours until the police arrive , i tell the police of the matter and they ask if want to claim assault . Fearing this may delay my release i reject the chance . I am then questioned by the police who tell me that it doesnt look good and that a magistrate would not beleive me . I explain that i am more than happy to pay for the goods and have been all along . The officer goes away and then returns and says although he doesnt believe me i am free to go if a pay for the meat , i say i am happy to do so and i complete the transaction downstairs in the shop i am handed a banning order for life from all stores of sainsburys but not cautioned by the police in anyway or handed any notice of civil recovery intended litigation against me .
Am i right in thinking here that the matter is now closed as the store allowed me to pay for the item and thus are admitting that mine was but a human error free of malicious intent or theft ?
Or will i now receive a letter of civil recovery ?
One topic that is hard to find on the net is what happens if one just consistently ignores the court orders regardless, surely the only thing a civil court can do is instruct bailiffs to recover the debt , and without assets that path is extremely limited is it not ?
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